The Faith & Religion mega Thread

Originally Posted by YesItsMe The Heathen Easter was Freyja's (Ostara's) pagan sex party. It was not about sex though. ... I wonder why sex is a bad thing.

Overpopulation!

Add: Having kids when young and dumb often without the grandparents around needs more scaring straight I'm sure...

If only one could have sex without making new children every time!
See also: http://vhemt.org/biobreed.htm#sex

Originally Posted by YesItsMe ... I wonder why sex is a bad thing.

According to The Atheist Manifesto, ST Peter suffered from erectile dysfunction, (let the jokes begin) and some mental disorders, and basically, if he wasn't gettin' any neither should you.

8bit

Originally Posted by eight.bit.al According to The Atheist Manifesto, ST Peter suffered from erectile dysfunction, (let the jokes begin) and some mental disorders, and basically, if he wasn't gettin' any neither should you. 8bit

The Atheist Manifesto isn't exactly a great source on religion. Peter gave some very sensitive advice to husbands and wives. But he often spoke on behalf of the other apostles, so may have been older than them.

My understanding is that in 1512 or some suich time (Maybe Council of Trent 1553? Dunno really, not bothered) the Church (We hadn't had the Protestant schisms in England & Germany) moved to a celibate priesthood because some guys with authority thought it would increase their political power. It just increased the pedophilia (which had always been there) and resulted in more business for whores and sexual abuse of nuns, housemaids, etc. Very sad. But they're not suffering any longer.

What bugs me is that when I say I's a Christian, people automatically categorize me with that lot, or the young earthers (whatever they're smoking).

Only god I mean human.

Instead of mass producing food (problems and opinions) let's mass produced food sources. Try growing Aquaponics in your basement or backyard!

Originally Posted by business_kid [*]The Northern Irish troubles is a red herring, imho, and started in the early 1600s when the English army cleared out the Celts from a regular trouble spot and gave the land to (primarily) Scots Presbyterians. In the early 20th century, it was more about England needing their manufacturing base in Belfast, and in the 1970s on, it was a 'George Floyd' type reaction on steroids which quickly turned criminal. A school dropout could pick up a gun and make a very decent living as a terrorist. Both sides controlled parts of all the major towns, and ripped off businesses in protection rackets. They shot, or kneecapped any who ratted them out or didn't do what they were told. 'Kneecapping' was being shot through the kneecap; you weren't dead, but you'd never recover; you could walk, but not run.

My favourite comment so far on the Northern Irish troubles came from a former soldier I met by a campfire, who said he'd bought his way out of the British Army when they decided that everyone would have to do a tour in Ireland. As near as I remember he said, "I didn't want to get involved in a war where even the people fighting don't know what they're fighting over."

1066 And All That summed it up in a nutshell as usual. According to this wonderful history book, the English will never be able to solve the Irish Question because, as soon as they get near to a solution, the Irish simply invent a new question.

Kinda understandable now why Islam is so popular.

Lots of virgins virgins/sex in heaven.

Best way to recruit a country boy.
Tell him he gets laid when he wants when he dies.

1066 And All That summed it up in a nutshell as usual.

Had to search for it to understand.

The book is full of examples of half-remembered and mixed-up facts.

Ok. Got it now. Read that and prose looks like England native to me who wrote it.

http://hotgiraffe.narod.ru/books/1066.html

During the Covid19 Lockdown I bought the Witcher III game from Steam which is a role playing game circa ~1200 AD and it is fascinating how much the developers researched all of the details that can and do make the game very immersive to feel like you've gone back in time. This includes clothing, architecture, construction techniques, "sanitary" conditions, and of course superstition and politics.

There is a religious sect called The Eternal Fire burning "witches" whose category is so flexible it includes anyone some official (or some "pitchfork" crowd) just doesn't like or concludes would make a good example to assert power from above and subservience below. Basically any dissent, any obstacle to dogma, is simply stifled and destroyed while FUD prevails a la every dictator's friend, the justification publications and DIY manuals like The Prince and Mein Kampf.

Numerous barefoot, peasants in extreme poverty wander around (many of them drunk, whether on alcohol or superstition/religious fervor) spouting the line ---

Originally Posted by Witcher Peasants Kings fight wars... peasants die in them

BTW Rokytnji, the whole multiple virgins thing is even worse than mindless would-be sluts since apparently the wives don't mind, despite being rejoined with their husbands in Paradise, as they can overlook their husbands' "dalliance" because they get to use these one-time virgins as servants to wait on them "hand and foot". Apparently in The Hereafter, class distinctions still exist and abject Slavery is a good thing... well if you're one of The Chosen.

Some vision of "paradise" eh?

Here you correctly see through heaven being described in earthly terms. There's imho an even worse example than a game you were driven to in lockdown.

Those killed in a ‘Jihad’ are supposed to go straight to heaven with seven virgins. The picture is inaccurate and grossly insulting to women. Personally, it’s not my concept of paradise to be surrounded by seven catty women demanding your individual attention, whereas you may want none of them but your own wife, (who doesn’t qualify for your attention because she’s no virgin).

These virgins have as their doubtful recommendation that through diabolical looks, negative personality, lack of libido, unnatural cravings, sheer insanity or a combination of the above, they gave to worms what they refused to men (Their virginity). The supposed ‘reward’ for croaking it in a Jihad also vastly overestimates the population of females, and dead heaven-worthy virgins or spinsters ready to marry the next dead fighter in particular.

And if a woman is slain fighting in a Jihad, is she sent to heaven with seven virgin husbands? Or seven virgin wives? Would either be a reward to her? I don’t think so. Virgin husbands might prove a rare commodity indeed, and more uninviting than the female equivalent!

In tandem with your post, enorbet, whatwe are enumerating are false religious ideas. Fine if you want to make fun of religion, but very little use in weeding the true from the false. Or very little use for anything useful at all, in fact.

Technically, Islam talks about “fruit”, “virgins” is a rather artificial translation. And who wouldn’t enjoy a nice fruit basket?

Naturally you see it that way, business_kid, since you are convinced yours is the One True Religion, whereas I think ALL of them are false and quite often, poisonous.

Latin, &si., paintings on cave walls, &c.,,, all the way down... &see.

Originally Posted by enorbet Naturally you see it that way, business_kid, since you are convinced yours is the One True Religion, whereas I think ALL of them are false and quite often, poisonous.

There's tens of thousands of religions, and I would agree that nearly all of them are quite false and poisonous. But I would lump Scientific Atheism in among them in as a mystery religion because you are believing in things nobody can properly explain. So it's a question of perspectives. You're entitled and quite attached to yours, and I'm entitled and quite attached to mine.