The Faith & Religion mega Thread

Originally Posted by jamison20000e I gave you a good example already: time travel, wormholes, pools in time... throwing a rock out the window at the speed of light would be no different than throwing a rock out the window of a train. Time is only relevant to make believe (and sadly, currently a whole lot of evil in politics and religions) plus of course yes moving forward...

I wasn't referring to your notion of Time, just Time Travel and I don't see how what little we know about that has any impact whatsoever on the validity of Math and all those "useless ones". You dodged with a distraction and tossed out "fairy tale" with zero evidence. That isn't even the faintest of hypothesis, it's just a rank claim like "the sky is falling" or Madonna still looks hot twerking at over 60.

Originally Posted by enorbet I wasn't referring to your notion of Time, just Time Travel and I don't see how what little we know about that has any impact whatsoever on the validity of Math and all those "useless ones". You dodged with a distraction and tossed out "fairy tale" with zero evidence. That isn't even the faintest of hypothesis, it's just a rank claim like "the sky is falling" or Madonna still looks hot twerking at over 60.

Zero evidence is where math ends and we use math to get there, all the unprovables in math lead to fairy tales in math... let's call it math theories that will never ever be math facts!

Maths can be religions if you want to go down rabbits holes with it...

Why would anyone be so touchy feely about it, if it weren't there "god$;" 1 something + 1 something is not 2 or 3 somethings -1 something... yada, yada, yada...

We use something to define things but each things are all different... as usual this thread coagulates!

And with nine billion multiplying babies, if we get there.

Originally Posted by jamison20000e And with nine billion multiplying babies, if we get there.

Stop posting bullsh*t and answer one the of many questions you've been asked.
Right now I'm starting to consider you as the most dishonest person on LQ.

I've seen better arguments from flat earthers.

Seek help. You need it.

Originally Posted by jens {...}I've seen better arguments from flat earthers.{...}

I only know one good flat earth theory: Earth formed initialy flat then with time turned into sphere|globe oval.

Originally Posted by jens Stop posting bullsh*t and answer one the of many questions you've been asked. Right now I'm starting to consider you as the most dishonest person on LQ. I've seen better arguments from flat earthers. Seek help. You need it.

I've answered it, if it has no end ie no answer, it's to sell or control some*...

Your believes have you whining jens... I admit we're idiots! (Just not all breeders!!!)

The leafs of the gods are real, expand your mind within reality... then poop.

Originally Posted by Arcane I only know one good flat earth theory: Earth formed initialy flat then with time turned into sphere|globe oval.

...protoplanetary disk...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form...e_Solar_System

A better theory than being born into "one" or picking one without educated guesses!

No Jamison, you haven't answered. You just apparently have very little understanding of Mathematics, not to mention a rather bullheaded way of just stating and re-stating your agenda, rigid and unchanging, perhaps even unchangeable. There is no way Math cn be a religion since it is never an argument from authority and never claims infallibility - ie Garbage In, Garbage Out. It offers NO answers, only the means to consider some in a formal. logical manner. Math does not create rabbit holes... people (and rabbits ) do.

Right. And so to, many consider science a religion simply because "belief."

So, eat, exercise and free your mind.

Thay say "everything is physics," DO THAY NOT‽ And, the " Theory of Everything" is as much a joke as a "Big Bang Theory,,," everything that has always been in and out of existence or beliefs like the unknowns in math that will never be known or religion.

Originally Posted by jamison20000e Thay say "everything is physics," DO THAY NOT‽ And, the " Theory of Everything" is as much a joke as a "Big Bang Theory,,," everything that has always been in and out of existence or beliefs like the unknowns in math that will never be known or religion.

Of course "everything is physics" since that's why Physics even exists. It is the study of how things interact. That by no means implies all interactions will eventually be understood since Physics depends on observations and we can't observe everything. For example we can get the faintest of glimpses by inference down around Planck Levels but it is going to be many generations before it is likely that any direct observation on that scale is likely. Physics accepts it's own limitations,

"Theory of Everything" has suffered readjustment from the understanding that everything observed so far seems to be energy fields not solid particles. It isn't just that matter and energy can be converted into each other but Mass IS Energy. This is now known because of Higgs. In the realm of baryonic matter we have known for a very long time that there are 4 fundamental forces and that gravity is incredibly difficult to understand. It doesn't fit well with the other 3, especially when considering Quantum Mechanics.

Theory of Everything is simply the quest to grasp how gravity does fit in. However now we realize that once that is finally accomplished to any meaningful degree we will still be incredibly ignorant since baryonic matter is only 5% of our Universe, yet it is all we can interact with under current levels of Physics. There have been arrogant scientists for certain but Science is humble and this is by it's very Nature since what it does best is disprove things. Proof only really exists in Mathematics.

Big Bang is a Theory but it has the potent advantage that we can literally see it. It is, at the very least, as solid as Newtonian Physics which is not disproved only limited. Within it's limitations Newton's math still works perfectly and the valid applications are incredibly vast. It is not only possible but likely, even expected, that Big Bang will undergo adjustment as potent as Einstein was to Newton, but just like Newton, it's not likely to ever go away, be disproved. Big Bang is demonstrably real. Deal with it.

A big bang implies "a universe" another one... us again being at the center of it all‽

There is not one oak tree, from one oak tree seed...

But again, rational thinking with no end is better than non-rational thinking with no end tho not individually because we will end...

Originally Posted by jamison20000e A big bang implies "a universe" another one... us again being at the center of it all‽ .

Huh? Whatever made you think that? No Science places us at the center of anything... quite the opposite.

I feel space and time goes on forever and I definitely would not want to.

If you cannot conceive anything unprovable as a potential religion your mind maybe too rigid or other...

Plus, am curious as to what my agenda maybe?