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Old 05-07-2004, 08:10 AM   #1
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Stop censorship


Are you like me fed up with censorship of music. I for one am sick of censored music that sounds like: **** I don't want you back **** bla bla bla **** **** **** bla bla *****. There is just something missing. Does anyone know who or why censors the music being broadcasted over the radio or internet or TV? Is there a campaing fighting against it, which I can join?
 
Old 05-07-2004, 09:18 AM   #2
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I would say that the most likely reason for this is that it is broadcast in such a way and at such times that minors (children, not under ground workers ) can access it. Which, as a father, seems fair enough to me.
 
Old 05-07-2004, 09:21 AM   #3
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I understand that, but destroying the beat of the music is just not the way
 
Old 05-07-2004, 09:39 AM   #4
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The other thing you have to consider is that it's in the record companies interests for you to only hear half of the song. That way, fans are forced to go out and buy the record. That pays the bills for the record executives and the fans get to feel cool 'cos they can hear the rude bits.
 
Old 05-07-2004, 11:13 AM   #5
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Re: Stop censorship

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Does anyone know who or why censors the music being broadcasted over the radio or internet or TV?
If your in America, its the FCC.. good luck with your fight that will most likely never change..

I see it more of a way to protect explicit language being heard/used towards children. I find some things inappropiate for younger audiences. I certainly would hate to have a child under 10 or so that has access to hear explicit words they would pick up and use, etc.

My solution, don't listen to the radio, go buy the uncensored album. The radio sucks anyways.
 
Old 05-07-2004, 11:55 AM   #6
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QUOTE:
"I certainly would hate to have a child under 10 or so that has access to hear explicit words they would pick up and use, etc."

But isn't that a parents thing? To take care of his child not to pick up such words. Here in Slovenia all children swear when they are young. It is ver common. But they grow out of it with age. Not by censorship. What is so different with american kids? Shouldn't they be guided by parents than the FCC?
 
Old 05-07-2004, 12:02 PM   #7
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Parents are a dying breed here in the US. Many parents seem to think career is more important than their children, so they send them to daycare and hire babysitters, or just let the TV babysit their kids while they work. Also, parents often don't want the responsibility of teaching morals to their children, so they expect schools and laws to take care of the problem. Then if their kids turn out wrong, they sue others for corrupting them.
 
Old 05-07-2004, 12:09 PM   #8
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My point exactly. Blaming everyone else for foul speaking or acting is not the solution. They will not acomplish anything beside people hating TV and Radio and/or musicians.
 
Old 05-07-2004, 12:53 PM   #9
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Parents are a dying breed here in the US. Many parents seem to think career is more important than their children, so they send them to daycare and hire babysitters, or just let the TV babysit their kids while they work. Also, parents often don't want the responsibility of teaching morals to their children, so they expect schools and laws to take care of the problem. Then if their kids turn out wrong, they sue others for corrupting them.
LMAO........yeppers
this crap all started with womens lib!!
the divorce rate in America is still around 60%............
Why have kids only to let someone else raise them??
 
Old 05-07-2004, 02:21 PM   #10
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But isn't that a parents thing? To take care of his child not to pick up such words. Here in Slovenia all children swear when they are young. It is ver common. But they grow out of it with age. Not by censorship. What is so different with american kids? Shouldn't they be guided by parents than the FCC?
You know, it is the parents job but a parent can't possibly control and watch their kid 24/7 when they are watching radio or TV. This is why our government censors such things in assistance that I see.

Your country maybe different than many others, but I don't want my kids (if and when that ever happens) to pick up foul language from other sources I have no control over. I guess I'll just put my kid in a 10x10 foot room til they are 18 so they can't curse or pick up anything else that is censored on TV or the radio, etc.

 
Old 05-08-2004, 08:12 PM   #11
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It's fair to say that swearing/expletive's are a class/cultural thing also tied to a child's interllectual ability and schooling.

Kid's rebel, but "grow out of it". The often swear because it's "daring", and the first thing that they learn is usually not to use "that kind" of language infront of their parent's (well, usually after the first "offering" of parental discipline - in whatever form that takes).

Personally, I have a clear memory of learning my first swear word(s). Though my use of expletive language is dependant on the company I'm in, or my emotional state of mind (frustration, anger, etc etc).

If a kid says a "rude" word, the parent's often punish, the fact that that word is a proper word, and can be found in dictionaries seems irrelevant.

My partner, as an infant school/kindergarten teacher, is pretty good at guessing which of her "charges" are likely to "try it on" with bad language and can often make a pretty good guess of what the parent's are like, directly from the child's actions. Take from that, what you will (even though it's quite a sweeping generalisation - it does seem to be the case).

But yes I'm inclined to agree, if the child has poor mentor's/role model's then they are more likely to be ignorant little scum bag's (notice I say more likely).

Just because those with the most, can offer their kid's a better life/education, it doesn't stop the kid's from being rude/ignorant/stuck up/whatever, it just tend's to mean that when they are rude/ignorant, they do it with a "posh" accent.

regards

John
 
Old 05-08-2004, 08:41 PM   #12
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What exactly are you talking about?
With no specifics how can anyone answer your question?
 
Old 05-08-2004, 08:44 PM   #13
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the fcc censors the radio for 2 reasons A beacause their a bunch of conservitive bastards and B for the same reason 14 year old kids can't buy playboy, it's wrong
 
Old 05-08-2004, 09:19 PM   #14
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the fcc censors the radio for 2 reasons A beacause their a bunch of conservitive bastards and B for the same reason 14 year old kids can't buy playboy, it's wrong
Hmmm... that's real constructive thinking. Why not give us real reasons to back up your weak opinion or we can just close this thread now if its going to come to replies like this?
Calling them names is not a reason and I wouldn't sell a 14 year old a playboy for many reasons, not just for the nude pictures of women.. mainly because they are not simply mature enough

Anyone want to post utter crap like pepsi did, save us the time and tell us to close this thread now.

Last edited by trickykid; 05-08-2004 at 09:21 PM.
 
Old 05-08-2004, 09:31 PM   #15
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Several years ago in Perth, the censorship board censored a dirty magazine, of which only a dozen or so actually came to Perth, because the pictures were of a local girl, and they wanted to protect her family's honour.

They actually sat with Artline Textas and crossed out the rude bits...

--Ian
 
  


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