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Old 04-21-2021, 07:49 PM   #16
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No, it just means unidentified.
And I still don't understand what UFA means. Wikipedia has nothing relevant.

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If there's intelligent aliens out there (probability says yes), they certainly aren't on Mars or anywhere in the solar system.
So far Mars has yet to reveal anything about whether there was a second life distinct from Earth, but it is probably unlikely. As for life elsewhere, how can anybody really know, the closest that we will all know is the telescope being currently prep for launch, even that is still a form of time travel, without knowing in actual live event locally.
 
Old 04-22-2021, 01:03 AM   #17
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^ I think one needs to differentiate between "life" and "intelligent life" here.
Given what I know, I find it possible that there was life on Mars, or maybe even is on Venus.
Micro-organisms.
A much more interesting topic than sketchy military airplane footage.
 
Old 04-22-2021, 01:15 AM   #18
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^ I think one needs to differentiate between "life" and "intelligent life" here.
Given what I know, I find it possible that there was life on Mars, or maybe even is on Venus.
Micro-organisms.
A much more interesting topic than sketchy military airplane footage.
i would like to see what kind of life there is at Europa.
maybe they send something to search for life before i die.

i am believer in life at our solar system , not intelligent though.
 
Old 04-22-2021, 06:16 AM   #19
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Personally, and no offense meant, but I think this thread is comical.

Guys are up in space, looking for extra terrestrial life, traces in the sand, etc.

But we already know of one form at least of extra terrestrial life, who has gone so far as to introduce himself, saying in effect "Hi Folks, I'm here too and I made this place for you guys. I've even written you a book."

The modern reaction to that has been primarily "No, you're not there under any circumstances whatsoever, and no you didn't make anything, so shut up and go away!"
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One can search the brain with a microscope and not find the mind, and can search the stars with a telescope and not find God.
 
Old 04-22-2021, 06:26 AM   #20
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But we already know of one form at least of extra terrestrial life, who has gone so far as to introduce himself, saying in effect "Hi Folks, I'm here too and I made this place for you guys. I've even written you a book."
I must have missed that one... before I was born perhaps.
 
Old 04-22-2021, 10:30 AM   #21
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Just a friendly reminder of the slippery slope leading to rabbit holes...

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Originally Posted by Webster's Dictionary

Definition of superstition

1a : a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation
b : an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition
2 : a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary
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Originally Posted by Stevie Wonder - "Superstition"
Very superstitious, writings on the wall,
Very superstitious, ladders 'bout to fall,
Thirteen-months-old baby broke the lookin' glass
Seven years of bad luck, the good things in your past

When you believe in things that you don't understand,
Then you suffer,
Superstition ain't the way
While it certainly still exists in social circles (and it sucks!) aren't we glad that rumour and hearsay are at least inadmissible in court? It wasn't very long ago that thousands were burned at the stake and worse just because of gossip and rumor. I fact there are STILL places in the world where alleging witchcraft leads to a death sentence, STILL Flat Earthers, STILL belief in Angels and Demons, and visiting aliens with anal fixations who apparently understand FTL Interstellar Travel but are fascinated with cow guts etc etc etc. C'mon guys.
 
Old 04-22-2021, 12:06 PM   #22
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Cow guts may be a delicacy on Uranus...
 
Old 04-23-2021, 04:31 AM   #23
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I must have missed that one... before I was born perhaps.
Depends on how old you are.
 
Old 05-27-2021, 05:40 PM   #24
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Ran into this recently: https://skyhub.org/index.html

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Our mission is straightforward: connect a network of civilian-owned sensor arrays, use machine learning to catalogue anomalous events, and share this data with researchers.
https://docs.skyhub.org/have-a-question/faqs

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What is Sky Hub?

Sky Hub is a group of like minded individuals that were tired of the lack of solid evidence about the UAP Phenomenon. With this lack of evidence, we felt that action had to be taken and we were tired of waiting.

Sky Hub is a team of engineers, scientists, and enthusiasts that all seek the same goal, and that goal is to take a scientific approach to the UAP Phenomenon.

[...]
How does Sky Hub differ from existing projects?

Sky Hub supports a fully modern, public search for the data signatures of UAPs in our skies by developing open source software (under the MIT License) that drives a global network of machine-learning, smart cameras and sensor-arrays—designed by Sky Hub, and built by the individual participants.
[...]
Sky Hub has determined that this data - like all data concerning the public good - should be made and kept public and as such the digital database will be free to use under the Creative Commons License BY-NC-SA (Attribution - Non Commercial - Share Alike) which allows anyone to remix, adapt, and build upon Sky Hubs work non-commercially.
 
Old 05-27-2021, 09:09 PM   #25
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Cow guts may be a delicacy on Uranus...
They feed that to their Bigfoots.
The reason they're sighted mostly in the south is for quality mountain oysters for themselves
 
Old 05-27-2021, 09:18 PM   #26
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I am confident that there are many UFOs--that is, unidentified flying objects.

Indeed, back in the 1960s, when I was a young 'un, radio host Harv Morgan, who worked for KYW before it moved from Cleveland to Philadelphia and who had a week-nightly show, devoted one night a week to "UFOlogists." (I used to listen to it on the skip with the transistor radio that my parents gave me for Christmas back when transistor radios were the hot new thing.)

I am also confident that any species intelligent enough to develop interstellar flight would be intelligent enough to avoid human beings and their environs for the poisonous hate-full pestilence that we are.

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Old 05-28-2021, 03:56 AM   #27
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So far the best case info I've seen is very recent and are the follow-ups on the Pentagon leak. The guy responsible for much of the good stuff is Luis Elozondo who was briefly at the head of Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) which was formed to gather and analyze UFO data such as the 3 main leaked videos. He left that organization because of the elitist and often literally medieval attitudes of many government officials regarding UFO data. Some govt. officials actually told him it was "hands off" because UFOs "are obviously demonic in nature". <facepalm>

Elizondo does NOT conclude these sightings, and they literally happen every day, are not rare and isolated, are aliens. He has a military background so his concern and interest is purely national security and the nature of what qualifies for "Top Secret". Since he left and revealed his data and experiences, several pilots have come forth and talked rather openly about their similar concerns, experiences and even shared full color photos taken in daylight (not fuzzy blips). To all of them, whatever they are, they do things our best aircraft cannot do AND they fly openly in our airspace so they are the definition of at the very least "possible threat" exactly because they are commonplace and we have no idea what they are or how what they do is even possible, and that includes instantaneous disappearance in addition to maneuvers at G-Levels that would turn us to mush and have no apparent physical contact with air molecules.

I think it is extremely important to resist the urge to go all Sci Fi and assume the phenomena are "aliens" exactly because we truly need to identify what so far is unidentified, especially now that we know for a fact that such sightings happen almost daily and in broad daylight.

This does have the real potential to be actually paradigm-changing, historical milestone level of importance to understand what this is but we won't get there while so many leap into woo. Hard, verifiable facts gentlemen, please.

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Old 05-28-2021, 05:00 AM   #28
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Hard verifiable facts …

One hard verifiable fact here is that daily UFO sightings only happen in the Excited States. There is a low budget section for that sort of thing.As far as I am aware, nobody has ever raised UFOs (much less daily sightings) at an EU level.

There have been more reported sightings of the Loch Ness Monster in Scotland, or of Moving Statues in the 1980s & 1990s than UFOs.But the Excited States is obviously in a different league. I don't want promotion to that league, btw.

These (moving statues)were instances when solid statues of solid materials at Catholic Pilgrimage Sites were seen to move their head, of have a tear in their eye, and I'm sure many derisory youtube videos exist. I suffered from whiplash at the time, and after staring up for 2 hours with the blood supply restricted, many hallucinations were probable, more than possible. But any non-miraculous theories were cast aside as insults. The whole thing vanished as suddenly as it started around the beginning of the paedophilia scandals.

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Old 05-28-2021, 11:22 AM   #29
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Elizondo does NOT conclude these sightings, and they literally happen every day, are not rare and isolated
That's it. "Unidentified" does not equal "mysterious".

But I feel a little like a spoilsport saying that, because why try to dissuade people from the childlike joy they might feel at the possibility (however remote) that an unidentified flying object might indeed be alien in origin...
 
Old 05-28-2021, 11:59 AM   #30
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To be fair Elizondo doesn't rule out aliens or even multi-dimensional possibilities. He just insists that we are not yet anywhere close to that point of drawing ANY conclusions. We simply need to do the serious, focused work to get there because whatever it is it is of extreme importance regardless.
 
  


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