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Pedroski · 06-24-2013, 07:26 PM

Hi. Whatever you as individuals think of the Snowden case and large scale, in my opinion, illegal global snooping on the part of the US govt, I was just thinking: if everyone who sends an email added the words 'thermonuclear device, next G8 meeting' or similar, would that make Prism implode through overload??

Z038 · 06-25-2013, 12:05 AM

I doubt it would make Prism implode. In any case, not enough people will do it because most people either 1) don't care, 2) are afraid, 3) don't have a problem with global snooping on the part of the US govt, or 4) didn't hear your "call to arms". Those who join the campaign will be few, and therefore easy to track down and subject to extraordinary rendition.

While it doesn't make it right, this snooping is nothing new. It is and has always been central to the concept of government, despite all the lofty ideas, egalitarian promises, and noble words reverently enscribed on hallowed vellums and parchments by kings and congresses and founding fathers.

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“To be GOVERNED is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be GOVERNED is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be place under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonored. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality."

- Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, from John Beverly Robinson's 1923 English translation of Idée Générale De La Revolution Au XIXe Siecle, written by Proudhon in 1851

Any who believe that government is necessary or desirable, or or who accept it as inevitable, must also accept what it means to be governed, as Proudhon so eloquently explained. Freedom and government are incompatible concepts.

Pedroski · 06-25-2013, 01:01 AM

Maybe we just need a lesson from Berthold Brecht: 'better than rob a bank is to open a bank.'

Better than oppose the govt. is join the govt?? But wasn't Obama going to shut down Guantanamo within the year, oh, about 7 years ago?

unSpawn · 06-25-2013, 01:10 AM

Moved: This thread is more suitable in the General forum and has been moved accordingly to help your thread/question get the exposure it deserves.

H_TeXMeX_H · 06-25-2013, 03:02 AM

He's a CIA agent and he is fulfilling his mission.

kooru · 06-25-2013, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedroski

Hi. Whatever you as individuals think of the Snowden case and large scale, in my opinion, illegal global snooping on the part of the US govt, I was just thinking: if everyone who sends an email added the words 'thermonuclear device, next G8 meeting' or similar, would that make Prism implode through overload??

Probably Prism will answer: "Wouldn't you prefer a good game of chess at next G8 meeting?"

brianL · 06-25-2013, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedroski

Hi. Whatever you as individuals think of the Snowden case and large scale, in my opinion, illegal global snooping on the part of the US govt, I was just thinking: if everyone who sends an email added the words 'thermonuclear device, next G8 meeting' or similar, would that make Prism implode through overload??

Or send this to all your contacts:
Thanks for lending me "Explosives For Dummies" at the mosque last Friday.

dugan · 06-26-2013, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedroski

Hi. Whatever you as individuals think of the Snowden case and large scale, in my opinion, illegal global snooping on the part of the US govt, I was just thinking: if everyone who sends an email added the words 'thermonuclear device, next G8 meeting' or similar, would that make Prism implode through overload??

Old idea.

http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/N/NSA-line-eater.html

sundialsvcs · 06-26-2013, 08:00 PM

Above all else, I hope that people will begin to imagine how utterly wasteful "the Military Industrial Complex" has systematically become. (These programs are merely "its domestic division.")

"Sure, let's spend #CLASSIFIED# Trillion dollars 'vacuuming up the Internet.' Who cares if it does anything useful ... the program is funded, which means that billions of US Dollars are going to fall into our laps every hour, and since the entire program is #CLASSIFIED#, no one will ever know."

The "foreign division" is the same scam: "Who cares where the War is, or why it is, or who it involves .. Let's Start It." WMDs ... chemical weapons ... any pretense will do.

The USA right now is unique among all the other nations in the world in that it spends several times more money on "defense" (and on warmongering ...) than several dozen other countries combined. But the citizens ("who ...?") sure are getting the short-end of the proverbial stick! The Congress seems to have put starvation on auto-pilot ("sequestration"), even as this Multi-Trillion(!) Dollar Sacred Pig continues to be ... worshipped.

"W - H - Y ?"

Hey... it's a fair question.