My Linux experience, not a happy camper.

aysiu · 09-28-2005, 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by P.O.A.L
- Shitux is an all out nightmare for someone who doesn't happen to have a uneventful install with all HW, software, updates and system working perfectly, who just wants to use their goddamn computer and doesn't have hundreds of hours to spend Googling and reading through forums trying to find out why there is a problem...why their hardware isn't recognised, why their installs are f**ked when they're supposedly "a breeze to install" and trying to do simple tasks that on any decent OS should be almost second nature to even a noob. Linux is hardly intuitive.

Same could be said of Windows, except that the closest most Windows users come to "installing" Windows is using restore CDs... or just buying a new computer.

Your ideas aren't new and they won't be taken seriously if you call Linux Shitux. Read around. Trolling is tired.

Charred · 09-29-2005, 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by P.O.A.L
- Shitux is an all out nightmare for someone who doesn't happen to have a uneventful install with all HW, software, updates and system working perfectly, who just wants to use their goddamn computer and doesn't have hundreds of hours to spend Googling and reading through forums trying to find out why there is a problem...why their hardware isn't recognised, why their installs are f**ked when they're supposedly "a breeze to install" and trying to do simple tasks that on any decent OS should be almost second nature to even a noob. Linux is hardly intuitive.

Geez, what a wanker! Someone hand me a LART, we'll make short work of this troll!

aysiu · 09-29-2005, 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by Charred
Geez, what a wanker! Someone hand me a LART, we'll make short work of this troll!

I can't believe LART is in the dictionary, but it is. Ordinarily, I'd refer the troll to my spiel on well-intentioned Linux trolls, except that I don't see this one as well-intentioned at all...

slackhack · 09-29-2005, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by P.O.A.L
- MAC OS is a dream to use and the epitome of a well designed and intuitive operating system for the masses.
- $hitdoze is functional, relatively intuitive and user-friendly and overall, tolerable...for most.
- Shitux is an all out nightmare for someone who doesn't happen to have a uneventful install with all HW, software, updates and system working perfectly, who just wants to use their goddamn computer and doesn't have hundreds of hours to spend Googling and reading through forums trying to find out why there is a problem...why their hardware isn't recognised, why their installs are f**ked when they're supposedly "a breeze to install" and trying to do simple tasks that on any decent OS should be almost second nature to even a noob. Linux is hardly intuitive. It's great for programmers, die-hards and geeks but a real turn-off for anybody else, ie: those many millions of users out there who would like to change from using Mr. Money's OS that has been shoved down their throat from day one.

i guess i missed the part where anyone was forcing anyone else to use linux.

if someone doesn't want to spend some time learning how to use a computer, then let them spend their money on mac hardware or on windows. until microsoft fully implements trusted computing and takes open source away from all of us, it's still the users' choice. choosing windows lethally narrows your choices, but since when is there any law about shooting yourself in the foot? go to it, and have fun spending hundreds on the latest version if wincrap. the rest of us will use google for the occasional glitch, and overall have better running computers anyway.

P.O.A.L · 09-29-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by aysiu
Same could be said of Windows, except that the closest most Windows users come to "installing" Windows is using restore CDs... or just buying a new computer.

$hitdoze Installation steps;
1. Insert CD and boot from it
2. Choose whether to format and size of partitions
3. Click mouse to begin install...wooohh, it's getting hard...Take a 30 minute break and go have a beer.
4. After that get your OEM driver CDs and insert into CDROM and and click from the provided GUI to install drivers...even more difficult...
5. Reboot as necessary...wow, that was too difficult, even for a monkey!
Hard huh? Sure, whatever you say dude. At least it works every time - without fail!

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Originally posted by aysiu Your ideas aren't new and they won't be taken seriously if you call Linux Shitux.

True, it isn't new that Linux is extremely difficult for the average computer user. And I was taking the piss - as Linux and Windows users do to MAC, MAC users to Windows and Linux users...and so on. If you can't handle a joke...well...

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Originally posted by Charred Geez, what a wanker!

Yes, I'll admit to the odd occasion where I jerk off. Thank you for reminding me that I still have a dick however I cannot speak for you regarding said instrument. Oh, and sorry for speaking the truth about the three main operating systems. My sincere apologies. I will refrain from doing it again in these forums.

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Originally posted by slackhack i guess i missed the part where anyone was forcing anyone else to use linux......it's still the users' choice...

Oh, I agree entirely. My point is that many people would love to switch from M$ but they are discouraged for many reasons - price, games, compatibility etc - and it is the entry-level difficulty of Linux and the problems that occur and the corresponding difficulty to solve them (without specific previous knowledge) that deters them.
As I said in my previous post, and I will say again, the ideal operating would have the advantages of all three - MAC, Windows and Linux - and have full control to boot. If Linux wants to progress into the mainstream it needs this functionality, intuitiveness and user-friendliness that the others have and at the same time keep it's own advantages, otherwise, as e-buzz says, it will remain an operating system for the computer-knowledgeable and those with too much "Google time" on their hands and will forever remain clouded in techie jargon and in an elitist category.

Charred · 09-29-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by aysiu
I can't believe LART is in the dictionary, but it is.

I didn't expect it to be either. That's funny!

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Ordinarily, I'd refer the troll to my spiel on well-intentioned Linux trolls, except that I don't see this one as well-intentioned at all...

Nor do I; this one's just another no-account loser with more opinion than experience. Nice article, BTW.

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Originally posted by slackhack
i guess i missed the part where anyone was forcing anyone else to use linux.

if someone doesn't want to spend some time learning how to use a computer, then let them spend their money on mac hardware or on windows. until microsoft fully implements trusted computing and takes open source away from all of us, it's still the users' choice. choosing windows lethally narrows your choices, but since when is there any law about shooting yourself in the foot? go to it, and have fun spending hundreds on the latest version if wincrap. the rest of us will use google for the occasional glitch, and overall have better running computers anyway.

Indeed. If I don't like something, I don't use it (which explains why I'm not hanging around a Windows or Macintosh forum). Furthermore, when I AM required to visit a Windows forum, I'm POLITE to the people there, RESPECTFUL of their decision to use Windows, and THANKFUL when someone helps me! This isn't quantum physics, it's COMMON SENSE!

P.O.A.L · 09-29-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Charred when I AM required to visit a Windows forum, I'm POLITE to the people there...

Well, so I point out some weaknesses with Linux and make a joke about it (and other OSs) and you go calling me a wanker. Some logic you have there mate. Don't go flaming me if you can't handle the truth.

aysiu · 09-29-2005, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by P.O.A.L
[B]$hitdoze Installation steps;
1. Insert CD and boot from it
2. Choose whether to format and size of partitions
3. Click mouse to begin install...wooohh, it's getting hard...Take a 30 minute break and go have a beer.
4. After that get your OEM driver CDs and insert into CDROM and and click from the provided GUI to install drivers...even more difficult...
5. Reboot as necessary...wow, that was too difficult, even for a monkey!
Hard huh? Sure, whatever you say dude. At least it works every time - without fail!

P.O.A.L · 09-29-2005, 12:19 PM

I apologise. It has worked every single time for me and everyone I know - more than 120 installs in total. Most of those installs were onto newly purchased systems. That's good enough a performance record for me.
And BTW, the only link that works is http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article...0199/40199.html. Psychocats times out and the others I get Net Reset Errors.

Charred · 09-29-2005, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by P.O.A.L
Well, so I point out some weaknesses with Linux and make a joke about it (and other OSs) and you go calling me a wanker. Some logic you have there mate. Don't go flaming me if you can't handle the truth.

You believe you've been polite? You'd better find a good tharapist! You've been uncouth, impolite, and juvenile!

This pencil is broken, don't feed the troll.

P.O.A.L · 09-29-2005, 12:29 PM

Shows what a real man you are with your heavy-handed approach - wanker style then doesn't it.

XavierP · 09-29-2005, 01:04 PM

D'ya know what? This thread is closed. To be honest, this page (posts #41-71 for me) absolutely sucks and has got out of control. The OP wanted to let us know that he was having a hard time with Linux and has done so. The last handful of posts have just degenerated beyond that, if you can believe it.

Everyone (and I do mean everyone) has their right to an opinion here. As long as it is posted in an intelligent manner. Largely on this page, that isn't happening. I'm seeing attacks on members from people who should know better.