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Originally posted by win32sux
[B]yes, and please keep him!!!
actually, i think he's better-off in france, but whatever...
[B]and sending some 300+ pound over-consuming conspiratorial fat-ass overthere to talk to you guys is gonna make things better?? LOL!!!
this is a perfect real-life example of the methodology moore uses to get his "points" accross... it's sick and pathetic..
why is that? the french and the british and virtually every country on the planet hates us equally.
its better than sending a 100 pound neocon dumbass in a cowboy hat
oh, no. its lal propaganda. dont listen!!!!
must...stay....ignorant...
iadmire conservatives for their ability to brush off facts as "sick and pathetic" to get their agenda through. whats really sick and pathetic is the war in iraq.
killing more than 20,000 innocent civilians vs. making a movie that you don't like. the scales are pretty heavilly tipped towards the former, but then again, you do have that wonderful skill of just brushing it off.
about ^, because the terrorists really care about whether a person they hate is going to get killed. the only reason these terrorists are there is because they want to kill americans. and then they really cant be called terrorists anymore because they are fightin us conventonally. its just a pathetic attempt by the bush administration to tie terrorisnt and iraq together.
Originally posted by nuka_t virtually every country on the planet hates us equally.
ummm... so???
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killing more than 20,000 innocent civilians vs. making a movie that you don't like. the scales are pretty heavilly tipped towards the former, but then again, you do have that wonderful skill of just brushing it off.
and you have that wonderful skill of just spinning everything up into the leftist stratosphere... nobody on this thread has put the war and moore on a scale... you created the scale in an attempt to help you get your point across...
and you have that wonderful skill of just spinning everything up into the leftist stratosphere... nobody on this thread has put the war and moore on a scale... you created the scale in an attempt to help you get your point across...
Amen, and its not like they cared about us before the war in iraq. Europe and Asia have hated us secretly for decades, The war in iraq just gives them a reason to come out of the closet.
because thats what went on during saddam's rule. supporting moore and his trash can be equated with supporting genocide, and the un does nothing to stop it.
asia doesnt hate us(imo), just a portion of the muslim community. japan luvs us
Originally posted by BajaNick Amen, and its not like they cared about us before the war in iraq. Europe and Asia have hated us secretly for decades, The war in iraq just gives them a reason to come out of the closet.
Mate, what's the problem with you? Why are you wearing your blinkers and refusing to see the other man's viewpoint?
That's the real problem here. Lack of vision. Why do you assume that everybody hates America? Why are you afflicted with that bunker mentality?
It's an issue-by-issue basis that people support or oppose. Why crucify people who make films that don't feed your big egos?
You have advised everybody to be objective. But now, by making this post, you have betrayed that in fact, your view is not at all objective but rather subjective.
P.S > This is not meant to be offensive, but I suppose that you would consider it so because of your weird ideas.
Originally posted by Harishankar
Why do you assume that everybody hates America?
I could list reasons(facts and events) to support this for pages and pages and pages...starting in the 1700's, continuing to yesterday?
Im sure he could also. so id venture to say its not an assumption.
This is a healthy debate that is going on here. Personally though I am opposed to some of US ideologies, I still don't hate the US. I will support the US when I think that they're doing the right thing.
It's people in the US who generally have extreme views: you're either white or you're black with no shades of grey inbetween.
noone accused you of hating the us.
who is upset? monday night football is on, im with beer and happy.(made possible by wife sleeping and not nagging)
now you are accusing us citizens of having extreme views? Us has very moderate views(imo once again) to the rest of the world. ie criminal system, religeon...
and like win32sux points out, it doesnt matter really. unless you are john kerry
Originally posted by rjcrews noone accused you of hating the us.
who is upset? monday night football is on, im with beer and happy.(made possible by wife sleeping and not nagging)
now you are accusing us citizens of having extreme views? Us has very moderate views(imo once again) to the rest of the world. ie criminal system, religeon...
and like win32sux points out, it doesnt matter really. unless you are john kerry
See. I agree with you 100%. As people to people, I have absolutely no problems with the US. It's some of your politicians who are giving your country a bad name. So, if you are truly interested in a free world where a lot of people don't hate the US, then you people must come out and say:
"Ok folks! Forget what those politicians at Washington DC said. This is what we have to say......."
Michael Moore is only doing this (though in an extreme way possibly). Is this wrong, I ask you? Read Lee Iacocca's book "Talking Straight". He says that freedom of press is one of the greatest assets of your country. It doesn't guarantee accuracy or fairness. Just freedom......
And he also said that if you don't like what you see on TV, just use your remote control.
Originally posted by rjcrews I could list reasons(facts and events) to support this for pages and pages and pages...starting in the 1700's, continuing to yesterday?
Im sure he could also. so id venture to say its not an assumption.
israel likes us
and when i said everybody hats us equally, i meant just that. that a certain population in all countries hates us equally. not the US exactly, more like bush. and saying not supporting the wair in iraq is genocide is like saying people that do support it also support prisoner abuse. thats not true, is it?
well....there is plenty of abuse in prison in america and there was a little in iraq, i dont see many complaining, so i can agree with you that poeple support prison abuse and not supporting the war is supporting genocide.
hitler and germany came into power because of attitudes like yours, maybe it will go away if we dont do anything. guess you dont remember saddam conquering kuwait?
and to answer, yes i believe it to be true. you become an accesory.
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