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It seems to me that while many British are relieved to be out of the EU, that he present Government may well have the terminal disease of Brexit.
They currently have a Parliamentary majority of 80, so they can afford many rebels before they lose Parliament, but the Tories are hard on losers. They want to Govern. Labour will back losers, but not the Tories.
As Britons get accustomed to life outside the EU in 2021,they may begin to regret their rush to part. This super-infectious strain of Covid will hardly help. All those changes will hit them in the pocket, and they are paying into the EU still. The rest of the UK (North of Ireland, Wales, Scotland, Gibraltar, etc.) seem to be financial liabilities, not assets. It's too early to know, that's why it's interesting to speculate.
I'm not going to regret Bretix. We originally joined the European Economic Community, not a political Union — no-one asked our opinion on that change.
Why should the Conservative MPs rebel? About what?
As for the other nations:
> Wales voted for Brexit, just as we did.
> Northern Ireland? Ireland can have that on a plate as far as I'm concerned, though why anyone would want a place with the Orange Order and Arlene Foster is beyond me.
> Scotland? Propped up with English taxpayers' money, yet they never stop whinging. I wouldn't miss them.
As Britons get accustomed to life outside the EU in 2021,they may begin to regret their rush to part.
It was hardly a rush!
And the regret was palpable almost from the beginning; they had the results of the referendum, and democracy kinda demands to stick to that, even though it was brainfarted by one politician and influenced by Cambridge Analytica.
And that's what they're going to do now, for better or worse.
I'm just curious to see how they spin it when the economy starts to tumble. Some are certainly going to blame the EU for that...
Is it fair to say that Brexit broke Theresa May's political career? Maybe Boris' will break too. But that still doesn't change a thing. Sorry, guys. Brits.
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For many centuries we were a successful little island and were members of the Eu for 48 years. Less than that, actually, because as the op said we only became part of a union some time after we joined the eec.
There are 27 nations in the Eu and a world full of nations outside. We are now one of those and will no doubt prosper.
It was hardly a rush!
And the regret was palpable almost from the beginning; they had the results of the referendum, and democracy kinda demands to stick to that, even though it was brainfarted by one politician and influenced by Cambridge Analytica.
And that's what they're going to do now, for better or worse.
I'm just curious to see how they spin it when the economy starts to tumble. Some are certainly going to blame the EU for that...
Is it fair to say that Brexit broke Theresa May's political career? Maybe Boris' will break too. But that still doesn't change a thing. Sorry, guys. Brits.
Well, the British posters still like it, that's for sure. Maybe when the solids have been hitting the ventilation for a while, there will be a change of mind. But posters will naturally be loath to admit error. That's what keeps politics amusing. It will be interesting to wake this subject up in the future. We get caught in Ireland. We have the only land border with the EU, and we can't police or close it. Neither can the UK. One road in particular crosses the border several times, and the only way you know is that the speed limit changes from km/h to mph.
One immediate effect was this. I pressed "buy now" in Ebay & Amazon on a 3d printer. On Ebay, it was £380 (=€425) +€84.71 in 'global shipping' which I am supposed to but don't get back. On Amazon, the charge was €42, and they say on the page that it's not taken out of my card if not needed (which it isn't). So Ebay has excluded itself from my options.
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I fear that Western countries are forgetting the lesson of World War II, that is, that cooperation is necessary for survival and peace.
We fully intend to cooperate with EU and the rest of the world. Members countries of the EU can only cooperate with each other and the bureaucrats in Brussels decide for them whether to cooperate with rest of the world.
I don't think we ever intended to rebuild an empire.
Members countries of the EU can only cooperate with each other and the bureaucrats in Brussels decide for them whether to cooperate with rest of the world.
That's... less than a half-truth.
It's fun to hear the familiar nationalist waffle out of a different corner for once (I know, inhabitants of the British isles probably hear this every day).
business_kid, what are "British posters"?
I get the drift, but haven't heard that term before.
And the regret was palpable almost from the beginning; they had the results of the referendum, and democracy kinda demands to stick to that, even though it was brainfarted by one politician and influenced by Cambridge Analytica.
We expressed our opinion three times:
1. the referendum
2. the last EU parliamentary election, where the Brexit party topped the poll in every English region except London
3. the last Westminster election, where the clearly pro-Brexit Conservatives increased their majority and the pro-EU Liberals barely held their few seats.
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That's... less than a half-truth.
OK. I may have over-simplified.
My point was in response to frankbell. We are perfectly capable of building worldwide relationships without trying to create an empire and without brussel's bureaucracy. The British Empire died off long before we joined the eec.
Like USA, Canada, Australia ... we can deal with the world on our own. Just watch us!
business_kid, what are "British posters"?
I get the drift, but haven't heard that term before.
Posters on LQ who apparently hail from the pro-Brexit parts of the UK, or those from anywhere who express similar loyalties. I invented the term but should have been clearer. There are anti-Brexit parts of the UK, you know.
People outside the UK are more inclined to see this as one of life's great gambles. And since the US Presidential election has descended into occasional nasty outbursts of Sore Loser Syndrome, Brexit is conveniently timed
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