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you clearly have not been reading the previous posts... sorry to burst your bubble but linux does most things in fewer steps than windows. in fact if you know even a little bit more than the gui you can do most things in one step.
Originally posted by andredude you clearly have not been reading the previous posts... sorry to burst your bubble but linux does most things in fewer steps than windows. in fact if you know even a little bit more than the gui you can do most things in one step.
ignorance must be bliss!
Hahahhaha Speak for yourself.
Get real. More than 25% of the posts here are "why can't I get whatever to work in Linux".
Linux only has 5% + or - 2% of the market.
It is still 2 years behind everything MS is doing. Linux was a fad for about 2 years. Now people are going back to Windows.
People used to have interest in it, now people are just giving Linux up because it takes too many steps to do something.
It shouldn't take so much work to get a video card working. In Windows you load the driver and you're done. Good luck doing that in Linux.
There is no consistancy in Linux. One distro has different commands than the next..... Yeah.......that makes sense
When you close the lid of your laptop and reopen it, things should be OK. In linux sometimes the OS doesn't know what to do. Power management sucks. Come on, it's 2004, and Linux still has nothing like Volume Shadow Copy. This is a big deal....because it almost negates having to restore from backup. Can linux do this? NO.
In the year 2004 if an OS doesn't have power management for laptops, that's a problem. Linux is so far behind it's funny
I've been here at LQO for quite a while. I know what I'm doing with Linux. After a good 2 year run with using Linux I can honestly say that it's not up to par with Windows. It's just not. It's not as friendly and it doesn't support as many things.
"not as friendly" is merely opinion...i've known some bikers and drug dealers who, under the hard exterior, are friendlier than many smiling church-goers.
Lack of support is almost always the fault of hardware manufacturers who refuse to release drivers or specs....nothing to do with Linux itself being sub-par.
Totally agree with mikshaw in this one!. Whitehat said that he has been using Linux for 2 years and still find that installing drivers for the graphics card is difficult, lol. Nvidia was the easiest driver I've ever installed. It works exactly for Windows as you said "you load the driver and you are done" but unlike Windows, you don't have to reboot for the changes to take effect.... But some peoples understand things faster and easier then others...
Get real. More than 25% of the posts here are "why can't I get whatever to work in Linux"
dude... you're in linuxquestions.org... think about it...
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People used to have interest in it, now people are just giving Linux up because it takes too many steps to do something.
According to ZDNet: IDC says Linux's desktop market share has nearly doubled in the past three years, from 1.5 percent at the end of 2000 to 2.8 percent now. Linux is poised to surpass Apple's 2.9 percent of the market, as projected a year ago. http://insight.zdnet.co.uk/software/...9118695,00.htm
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t is still 2 years behind everything MS is doing.
I can send you an email and take control of your computer, without you even opening an attachment. That's quite simply how 'advanced' windows is. You must have a lot of fun.
Yes, clearly you know what you're doing in linux. If you're such a windows fan, why are you hanging around linux forums? Just to troll? That's pretty sad, but understandable since windows has no such thing as a community, so where else will you find anybody to talk to?
Don't worry everybody, be calm, I've already reported Whitehat to the mods for abusing the forums...
Also, in some other thread, he affirmed to have mental problems due headaches, so please be calm... I personally feel sorry for him...
Bunnies aren't just cute like everybody supposes,
They've got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses.
And what's with all the carrots?
What do they need such good eyesight for anyway?
There's a linux distro for everyone. If having too many choices and installing drivers is a problem, then go to Walmart and buy Lindows pre-installed on a $300 PC. It'll never even ask you to type a password.
Originally posted by Whitehat
Get real. More than 25% of the posts here are "why can't I get whatever to work in Linux".
Maybe. But thats because people don't know linux. Once they do, then they stop asking. As previously mentioned, people still ask those same questions for windows.
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Linux only has 5% + or - 2% of the market.
Ehh... No. Linux has a small desktop market share. But is leading supremely in the server and small-system/device architectures.
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It is still 2 years behind everything MS is doing.
Ehh... No. Think journaled file systems. Linux has had them for... how long? And windows won't see that (in their unique/pap style) until Longhorn... 2007 I believe was the last publicised release date.
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People used to have interest in it, now people are just giving Linux up because it takes too many steps to do something.
OK. But as I've previously mentioned, these are the people who just want web, mail, and music. Which is part of my point. There should be a distro to address this, helping ease those users into linux at no cost.
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It shouldn't take so much work to get a video card working. In Windows you load the driver and you're done. Good luck doing that in Linux.
See previous comments about NVidia. But remember, sometimes windows just doesn't like these drivers itself, and it can even lead to a re-install of the system just to remove them!
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There is no consistancy in Linux. One distro has different commands than the next..... Yeah.......that makes sense
Again, linux is a community. People are doing things differently everywhere - even under windows. And don't say there aren't - there are. Believe me, I've worked with windows for 5 years in various incarnations, and I've seen my fair share.
Perhaps the linux community should release program guidelines, much in the same way that Apple has for designers. That would help quell the consistancy issues.
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When you close the lid of your laptop and reopen it, things should be OK. In linux sometimes the OS doesn't know what to do. Power management sucks. Come on, it's 2004, and Linux still has nothing like Volume Shadow Copy. This is a big deal....because it almost negates having to restore from backup. Can linux do this? NO.
No, but then again linux probably doesn't need it. It has journaled file systems. It has NFS. It has RSYNC. It can backup the whole environment while its bloody running! Lets see you do those things with windows.
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In the year 2004 if an OS doesn't have power management for laptops, that's a problem. Linux is so far behind it's funny
Thats is probably the only good thing you've said. It probably hasn't been addressed yet because there isn't much of a requirement for it. Or maybe it has, and you just haven't looked hard enough.
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I've been here at LQO for quite a while. I know what I'm doing with Linux. After a good 2 year run with using Linux I can honestly say that it's not up to par with Windows. It's just not. It's not as friendly and it doesn't support as many things.
Again, thats true. It isn't as friendly. But for the raw power, can you blame them? Its like paying through your nose for a fridge that wishes you good morning in 35 languages and can tell you the time on the moon. I'd rather have the one thats frost-free, keeps my food cold, and has an ice-dispenser.
You've made two good points, which I believe I was trying to pose while rambling on with myself (as I tend to do). Maybe its time for a distro which can actually do things for the desktop which windows can't? I don't know.
it's simple: you can't have everything. and there's no use in whining about it.
i'm sure linux distros will evolve to delete the pains you currently experience, but for now there's nothing to be done but to climb the big learning curve like the rest of us schlubs.
you can get all the ease of use with windows if you like, but then you'll have to put up with all the -ves that come with that OS as well. then again, linux has it's own bugbears. pick your poison, bub.
btw, if you have slackware, you sound like an excellent candidate for dropline joy. try it and enjoy your computer.
Just to provide balance - I was (maybe still am) a member of some of the extremely numerous MS Windows forums/newsgroups and believe me, if you substitute the word "Windows" for "Linux", we get almost exactly the same questions they do.
I have lost count of the number of "driver won't install", "how do I...(do something simple)" and "it just stopped working" type threads. Our advantage is that we don't get the "virus fscked my box" threads.
As long as there are computers and users the same questions will arise over and over again.
Originally posted by neocookie I remember first logging into KDE. It looked purty, sure, but then I hit the start bar and was presented with so many apps, most of them doing the same as another, that again I just gave up and went back to windows.
Was it really that hard to even randomly choose one of them and do your work? If it was, then I believe your choice of going back to Windows was correct indeed.
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