LinuxQuestions.org
Visit Jeremy's Blog.
Home Forums Tutorials Articles Register
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Non-*NIX Forums > General
User Name
Password
General This forum is for non-technical general discussion which can include both Linux and non-Linux topics. Have fun!

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 04-24-2016, 01:00 AM   #16
273
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Dec 2011
Location: UK
Distribution: Debian Sid AMD64, Raspbian Wheezy, various VMs
Posts: 7,680

Rep: Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373

I think Netflix meant get your ISP to reset your connection, in other words have your modem renegotiate the connection parameters in the hope that this increases your speed. Just power cycling the router probably did something along those lines but for best results I think your ISP would have to reset the modem at their end also.
 
Old 04-24-2016, 01:30 AM   #17
enorbet
Senior Member
 
Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Virginia
Distribution: Slackware = Main OpSys
Posts: 4,784

Rep: Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emerson View Post
How changing IP address is going to fix Netflix problem?
While I haven't witnessed the following issue with Netflix I have with Amazon so with some services they identify who you are for such services as "Watch Again" or "Continue Watching" not to mention your personal preferences all by your IP. DHCP confirms that you are set for random IPs but your modem identifies itself to your ISP by MAC address and it is common that while technically Dynamic, you get the same one for years. Buying a Static IP is just a way of locking it down for certain and comes at a service fee from most ISPs.
 
Old 04-24-2016, 10:15 PM   #18
Jeebizz
Senior Member
 
Registered: May 2004
Distribution: Slackware15.0 64-Bit Desktop, Debian 11 non-free Toshiba Satellite Notebook
Posts: 4,187

Rep: Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379
Except that I do not know of any ISPs anymore that offer static ips to a residential customer, unless they get a business account. Either way, its a combination of many factors, the connection speed, the routing, if there is any network congestion on the ISP side, also any congestion on said streaming service. Lets not forget also that there could be throttling involved.

--edit

Also didn't the US already run out of IPv4 blocks? I am surprised they have not started to roll out either CGNAT (Carrier Grade Nat) for the IPv4 blocks, or full on IPv6. Comcast supposedly rolled something with IPv6 but it is in a very small region I think, it is more of a test.

So I imagine even as a business customer wanting a static ip, the going rate might be even higher now, just for 1 static ip, let alone if multiple static ip ranges were needed.

Last edited by Jeebizz; 04-24-2016 at 10:18 PM.
 
Old 04-25-2016, 08:34 AM   #19
enorbet
Senior Member
 
Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Virginia
Distribution: Slackware = Main OpSys
Posts: 4,784

Rep: Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435Reputation: 4435
I don't see a high return on investment for paying extra for Static IP but I DO see huge benefits with most ISPs for the investment in a Premium or Business Account, especially DSL but even a few Cable services. Most people don't understand that Up and Down are inextricably linked and that when Up is overwhelmed, Down is severely throttled. This is not an anecdotal experience even though I can personally verify this concept and experience. It is a fundamental way in which networking functions.So I routinely pay extra for greater alignment between the two, meaning higher Up limits.

Last edited by enorbet; 04-25-2016 at 08:35 AM.
 
Old 04-25-2016, 10:10 AM   #20
Jeebizz
Senior Member
 
Registered: May 2004
Distribution: Slackware15.0 64-Bit Desktop, Debian 11 non-free Toshiba Satellite Notebook
Posts: 4,187

Rep: Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379
Quite honestly I do not see the point or need for a static ip even for a business, unless you are hosting something or have security cameras on site that you need to access. Most business accounts I encountered as a frontline agent would be mom-and-pop businesses and they would have a static ip, sometimes multiple and they were never used so clearly the sales office were able to trick them into buying the ips, and they did not even realize they needed to setup a static nat connection on their routers to even make use of the extra blocks. DHCP for all intensive purposes is just fine, hell even if you did need to host a security camera, dynamic dns svcs are out there, and cheaper than getting a static. Unles you are ACTUALLY hosting a server, and you know what you are doing, yes get a static ip, but again the majority of business accounts I have encountered over the years, its just a waste. Getting a static ip does not stabilise your connection in anyway, especially if you are on dsl, because its dsl.
 
Old 04-25-2016, 10:15 AM   #21
Emerson
LQ Sage
 
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Saint Amant, Acadiana
Distribution: Gentoo ~amd64
Posts: 7,661

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Interestingly enough my home connection shows as static when I do DNS lookup, never asked for it. I noticed though the port blocking is gone, ports 25, 80 and some more used to be blocked by ISP.
 
Old 04-25-2016, 12:17 PM   #22
Jeebizz
Senior Member
 
Registered: May 2004
Distribution: Slackware15.0 64-Bit Desktop, Debian 11 non-free Toshiba Satellite Notebook
Posts: 4,187

Rep: Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379
DNS is usually static, because of the 'dns assist' option. Ever wonder sometimes when you are not able to reach a site instead of a webpage cannot be found message, you are redirected to a search engine with your isp's name on the front? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_hi...lation_by_ISPs

All isps have options for you to opt-out. For example you just go into your router settings, and find the dns info that is there and change part of the ip (usually the last octet) to a different value. Or you can simply not use your isp's DNS ip, and use something else, like Google's DNS 4.4.4.4 or 8.8.8.8.

All isps at least here in the US also block ports 25 80 and 110 for residential, business accounts have no restrictions and usually all isps by now probably do not even use ports 25 and 110 for email, Verizon uses ports 465 and 995 with ssl.

Again though, if you have a physically crappy connection i.e. dsl - settings on your router won't really have any real improvement. There is just too many issues, i.e noise on line, ground faults, shorts, water and other environmental issues. T1s and such are at least better shielded, but yes they are more expensive than a cable or dsl connection, but the reliability is plain to see though again it is more economical and advantagous in the long run just to go fiber (if available).

Thats not to say that fiber doesn't have it's own weaknesses, it is not subject to any interference per-se like copper, but a simple microbend (less than a mm) can actually weaken the light, or if it is severed of course, but other than that the bandwidth limitations are practically non-existent on fiber, except of course only limited by the equipment in the CO on how much it can throw out and at the site by their equipment as well.

Last edited by Jeebizz; 04-25-2016 at 12:21 PM.
 
Old 04-25-2016, 12:24 PM   #23
Emerson
LQ Sage
 
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Saint Amant, Acadiana
Distribution: Gentoo ~amd64
Posts: 7,661

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Going off topic now. I never used ISP's DNS, I have my own. Ports 25. 80, and others were blocked on my residential connection and suddenly the blocks were gone. I'm not complaining, this is fiber connection BTW.
 
Old 04-25-2016, 12:34 PM   #24
Jeebizz
Senior Member
 
Registered: May 2004
Distribution: Slackware15.0 64-Bit Desktop, Debian 11 non-free Toshiba Satellite Notebook
Posts: 4,187

Rep: Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379Reputation: 1379
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emerson View Post
Going off topic now. I never used ISP's DNS, I have my own. Ports 25. 80, and others were blocked on my residential connection and suddenly the blocks were gone. I'm not complaining, this is fiber connection BTW.
Nice. Also is your fiber all the way to your premises (FTTP) or only up to the neighborhood/node or curb(FTTN FTTC)? My fiber is FTTP
 
Old 04-25-2016, 12:56 PM   #25
Habitual
LQ Veteran
 
Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Abingdon, VA
Distribution: Catalina
Posts: 9,374
Blog Entries: 37

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emerson View Post
Going off topic now. I never used ISP's DNS
8.8.8.8
4.2.2.2
pretty much everywhere...
 
Old 04-25-2016, 01:00 PM   #26
Emerson
LQ Sage
 
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Saint Amant, Acadiana
Distribution: Gentoo ~amd64
Posts: 7,661

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebizz View Post
Nice. Also is your fiber all the way to your premises (FTTP) or only up to the neighborhood/node or curb(FTTN FTTC)? My fiber is FTTP
Fiber all the way to the house. My ISP is doing it for years, they do not have copper pieces between customer and net.
 
Old 04-25-2016, 01:04 PM   #27
Emerson
LQ Sage
 
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Saint Amant, Acadiana
Distribution: Gentoo ~amd64
Posts: 7,661

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Quote:
Originally Posted by Habitual View Post
8.8.8.8
4.2.2.2
pretty much everywhere...
None of those, either. When I set up my router years ago I noticed the DNS had IANA root servers preconfigured as source. For kicks I left it like this.
 
  


Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[SOLVED] My ISP (french ISP Free) is seemingly blocking SSH. Looking for possible workarounds. manu-tm Linux - Networking 20 08-02-2015 10:09 AM
Prevent reset of network settings reset after cable unplug Mega-X Linux - Networking 5 01-02-2013 04:58 PM
One Box ISP Solution To Run An ISP swamprat Linux - Software 1 05-08-2008 06:25 PM
Changing ISP, apt-get can not see new ISP proxy linx win Debian 0 01-05-2005 03:41 AM
Need Help with Realying via ISP to ISP's Network papasan Linux - Networking 2 12-14-2003 08:42 AM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Non-*NIX Forums > General

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:16 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration