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Old 06-08-2003, 04:12 PM   #1
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I support Germany and France


It looks like my money is going to start going to Germany and possibly France instead of America for all of my future computing needs. I have no problem with spending money on open source software, and these are the countries that seem to be taking the lead as far as enterprising open source. I am really sick and tired of American corporations like Microsoft and the SCO who both pass as criminal organizations in my books. I wish that Americans would become good guys again, however they are the axis of evil in my opinion.
 
Old 06-08-2003, 04:36 PM   #2
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Now, that 1st sigline is not prophetic, is it?

Seriously, give the Americans a break. Have you seen what their media are showing them? - corporate power has effectively censored the media. The average American is being duped by his/her own government. The average American is fed a steady diet of disinformation that shapes how they have responded so far to this whole war-against-anyone-who-doesn't-like-Dubya bullshit.

Americans are good people, at least, no more or less than anyone else in the world. It is just their leaders that are unfortunately leading them down a path that will be very painful to return from.

I trust you are not trying to start a flamewar. The average American will in the years to come, need friends more, not less, unless the current leadership sees the error of its ways - and it starts raining lemonade!

Steve
 
Old 06-08-2003, 05:19 PM   #3
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Although I don't think it's right to blame it all on one country, I feel that American companies tend to have way to much power. It's there money that can make or break politicians. I think it should be out-lawed for corporations to donate huge amounts of money to political campaigns.
What if M$, with all it billions, sponsors a senator, or a president in his/her campaign, in return for a vote on a bill that makes it mandatory for PC manufacturers to install windows on all PC's. Just an example. I have the impression that it is much more difficult for corporations to gain real politilal power in other countries.
 
Old 06-08-2003, 06:30 PM   #4
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Bill Gates donated 20,000USD to John Ascroft's campaign(which Ashcroft lost to a dead guy) before George W. made him Attourney General.
I do not wonder why the Anti-trust case fizzled out.
 
Old 06-08-2003, 08:46 PM   #5
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Re: I support Germany and France

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I wish that Americans would become good guys again, however they are the axis of evil in my opinion.
I'm working on it. I'll try to do everything in a manner that will please Canadains from now on.
 
Old 06-08-2003, 09:17 PM   #6
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yes hate me Im a single white male american

hey guys dont take this wrong but I think that you could be missing the big picture here. your saying "Americans" but do you realize exactly who is responsible for the crap thats going on...or why they are doing it. sure the average American disinformed shmuck gets the blame for being ignorant of the train that he is blisfully unaware is about to hit him. but who is driving. and dont say Micky Soft or even old GW. what is killing the worlds chances at being a great place to live for everyone is an idea. that the little guy is powerless to change things for the better. why do you supose it is that the iraqi people were seen on tv cheering the down fall of Sadam when across town it was reported that there was still fighting going on? there are not a lot of hereos to be found in this. with US troops buldozing Iraqi dead into preplaned trenches, and the rest of the world being duped in there own ways.
It all comes down to the fact that nomater what great philosophic/spiritual book you choose, Koran, Torah, Id te Ching (spelling anyone), they all say the same thing that gets ignored by all but a few of the people who say they follow these works of wonder....play nice, eat right, tell the truth.
 
Old 06-08-2003, 09:19 PM   #7
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we plan on moving from the u.s. one day
 
Old 06-09-2003, 12:35 AM   #8
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Nice flamebait
 
Old 06-09-2003, 12:59 AM   #9
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I would like to do more business with Germany as well as countries like Russia and China, especially because I do not trust American businesses. It's not so much the people, instead I'm looking to put my dollars elsewhere because I've lost faith in American business and government. I don't know if any of these other countries would be any better, however I would like to find out and try to bridge a gap.

As a young person I thought that Americans were the best, and now I'm not sure about that. I've seen your government dummy down complex issues to a simple philosophy of good versus evil, and I don't agree with that philosophy. I have a feeling that it's just a matter of time before the Americans turn on Canadians with their weapons of mass destruction and invade Canada.
 
Old 06-09-2003, 03:12 AM   #10
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I have a feeling that it's just a matter of time before the Americans turn on Canadians with their weapons of mass destruction and invade Canada.
Are you serious? No man ofcource not. Thy the hell would they do that. That outrages man what won't happen, trust me.
 
Old 06-09-2003, 04:07 AM   #11
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I don't think that it's beyond the current administration to invade Canada because they could say that Canada has weapons of mass destruction. The Bush administration claims that if you are not on the side of the USA than you are on the side of evil. In other words, Bush is a madman. America is just very unstable, that's the bottom line. I hope that now, after whiping out Iraq the people of America can become logical and maybe even educated, rather than just a bunch of gun slinging bounty hunters.
 
Old 06-09-2003, 05:34 AM   #12
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lol...I don't know what kind of propaganda is being thrown around there in Canada but we are not all 'un-educated, gun slinging bounty hunters'. Thats like saying all Canadians have SARS.

Don't stereotype the whole country just because you don't like its leadership.
 
Old 06-09-2003, 06:44 AM   #13
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If you ignore him(GTKuser), he will eventually go away.
All he is doing is trolling.
 
Old 06-09-2003, 08:29 AM   #14
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Play nice now people...

Jamie...
 
Old 06-09-2003, 08:36 AM   #15
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I just have one question though to you GtkUser, if you don't support the USA entirely as a whole nation cause of its crappy leadership and some of its crappy companies, then you should wipe your computer and not use Redhat and maybe you shouldn't associate yourself with a whole forum that is based out of the USA.

I find your so-called argument or complaint biased towards all Americans. You know like Crashed_Again stated, I wouldn't judge everyone by what a countries elected leader is doing or what some company does to other companies, etc.

I think these sort of views/opinions should be kept off of this forum, especially since your views are against those (the majority) live or reside in.
 
  


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