Hi,

Just want to rant.

I hate it when others call me "PROGRAMMER", "CODER".

Im a web developer; although i know ASP.NET/PHP and database technologies; I freaking know nuts about C/C++.

SO how can anyone call me a programmer or a coder?

TO me, REAL PROGRAMMERS/CODERS are those who know their C / C++ inside out. They know how to write drivers/kernels, etc etc.

What do you think?

Likewise, i feel irritated when people like to call their HTML files / PHP SCRIPTS / ASP SCRIPTS as "CODES". "OH ..its the css code..its the html code..its the php codes.."

Come on, they are SCRIPTS!!

ARGHHHHHHHHH.

I feel better after ranting.

Oh btw, i _used_ to know Java (NOT JAVASCRIPT) too. But havent touch it for donkey years...So..its out for me. haha

But seriously, personally i feel that real programmers are those who writes in C/C++/ASM

IMHO a programmer is someone who creates a program or designs an application with existing programs. There are many types of programmers. You are comparing low-level programmers to high-level application programmers. Hence, the difference between C/C++/Assmebly and PHP/Perl/ASP.

The type of programmer you are talking about go down to the bit level but those types of programmers usually write very small system programs or drivers. It would be impossible or unfeasable for these types of programmers to write a big application such as a web portal. For that you use high-level environments such as PHP for example.

Programming is gray in many aspects. For example bash scripts can be considered programming, it's a high-level user space type of programming but it is still programming; and you can do very neat things with bash scripts using common unix utilities; you can even design a full blown database front-end, of which there are many in this way, using bash, cat, tl, cut, etc...

You sound like a programmer to me. The language you use is really irrelevant. ramram29 post was great by the way

You are whatever you tell people you are....If you don't tell them, they will draw their own conclusions.
Why not be a "software developer"?--that covers coding in html, scripting--everything.

Can I be a pony then?

Wikipedia holds the truth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmer