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Old 06-27-2017, 02:36 PM   #1
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Cool Humanizing The Computer


I want to understand similarities between the human body and a computer. I think this is important because if one day we have true AI we can get a basic and easy understanding of their anatomy.. So far this is what I have: CPU=brain, ports=ears, bus=veins, OS=body, kernel=heart, Assembly=DNA, machine code=syntax of DNA, MAC address=fingerprint, IP=house, gateway=highway, tcp/udp=car.. Any more ideas would be great!

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Old 06-27-2017, 02:56 PM   #2
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I think that a more appropriate comparison is between a computer and a human brain. I once read an article establishing this comparison. IIRC, the authors said that the HDD could be compared to the part of the brain where we store memories, the RAM could be compared to our working memory, the CPU could be compared to the frontal lobe (the part of the brain in charge of making decisions, among other things), and so on.

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Old 06-28-2017, 06:48 AM   #3
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BIOS/EFI + Firmware = SubConscious Limbic System
 
Old 06-28-2017, 06:57 AM   #4
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Don't anthropomorphise computers, they hate that.
 
Old 06-28-2017, 09:47 AM   #5
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I think that a more appropriate comparison is between a computer and a human brain. I once read an article establishing this comparison. IIRC, the authors said that the HDD could be compared to the part of the brain where we store memories, the RAM could be compared to our working memory, the CPU could be compared to the frontal lobe (the part of the brain in charge of making decisions, among other things), and so on.
Good point that is something to think about, I actually heard that before but forgot about it so thanks for reminding me. I still think certain components should be separate e.g. the kernel which I think is like the heart since the heart also allocates resources and a kernel panic = heart attack.
 
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BIOS/EFI + Firmware = SubConscious Limbic System
Im not sure if sounds like this description? "Our uncensored behavior often stems from the functions of the limbic system. And this system is an interesting organ driven by the pure logic of pain and pleasure. It subconsciously affects our behavior in the pattern of emotional response. It responds to pleasure by an inner peace. It also reacts to threats by an instinct for a survival mode. In fact, the only language it speaks is fear or peace."
 
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Don't anthropomorphise computers, they hate that.
haha im sure they'll understand..
 
Old 06-28-2017, 02:21 PM   #8
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Don't anthropomorphise computers, they hate that.
Brain is engaged. Liked this one.

Does this $DISPLAY make my LCD look fat?
 
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Im not sure if sounds like this description? "Our uncensored behavior often stems from the functions of the limbic system. And this system is an interesting organ driven by the pure logic of pain and pleasure. It subconsciously affects our behavior in the pattern of emotional response. It responds to pleasure by an inner peace. It also reacts to threats by an instinct for a survival mode. In fact, the only language it speaks is fear or peace."
Perhaps I should have used "~Limbic System" since only parts of it are what I was referring to, autonomic processes. Ultimately we are stalemated in comparing computing with biological processing since we are not binary.

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Old 06-29-2017, 09:43 AM   #10
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Perhaps I should have used "~Limbic System" since only parts of it are what I was referring to, autonomic processes. Ultimately we are stalemated in comparing computing with biological processing since we are not binary.
Ahh ok I get now, cool thanks that does make sense.
 
Old 06-29-2017, 10:00 AM   #11
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IMHO comparing a computer and a brain is somewhat misleading. A computer does just that, computes, using basic binary arithmetic, it simply does it extremely rapidly, but ultimately it's function is exquisitely primitive, a brain on the other hand is a neural net that processes thousands of simultaneous inputs comprising of nerve impulses and chemical changes and controls several 'peripheral' devices at the same time, whereas a computer time slices them, not really a comparison, brain does not have an operating system, or any real 'software' that we know of, it just functions, also brains grow, computers are manufactured and never change, unless we change them.
 
Old 06-29-2017, 02:23 PM   #12
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IMHO comparing a computer and a brain is somewhat misleading. A computer does just that, computes, using basic binary arithmetic, it simply does it extremely rapidly, but ultimately it's function is exquisitely primitive, a brain on the other hand is a neural net that processes thousands of simultaneous inputs comprising of nerve impulses and chemical changes and controls several 'peripheral' devices at the same time, whereas a computer time slices them, not really a comparison, brain does not have an operating system, or any real 'software' that we know of, it just functions, also brains grow, computers are manufactured and never change, unless we change them.
Well just as an example humans and serpants move differently, yet booth can move.. Just because something does something differently doesn't mean (at least I don't think) their fundamentally different (the fundamental part being motion).. Obviously they are very different nonetheless, but the point of this thread is to produce analogies so that it can be easier to interpret how computer/AI work..

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Old 06-29-2017, 02:45 PM   #13
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Well just as an example humans and serpants move differently, yet booth can move.. Just because something does something differently doesn't mean (at least I don't think) their fundamentally different (the fundamental part being motion).. Obviously they are very different nonetheless, but the point of this thread is to produce analogies so that it can be easier to interpret how computer/AI work..
And really Shite analogies at that, let's be honest. Now I wouldn't usually post in these more political type of forums, but, And I know you OP, You hardly understand Human Anatomy, and you're honestly attempting to speak philosophy like Socrates when you don't even know the capabilities of a .txt file on windows...
 
Old 07-04-2017, 09:54 PM   #14
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Stress is universal but bodies deal with it in diverse ways. They store it as poison somewhere. Cancers, to migraines to colds. some kill and some hurt. Genetics and other things decide where. Lowering stress levels help lessen them all.

I suggested that perhaps when I'm older, I'll show better aptitude for still meditation and be able to identify and focus such energies into dev/null.

What might an AI use it's dev/null for?

Undoubtedly trippy s* to think about.
 
Old 07-05-2017, 02:46 PM   #15
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Stress is universal but bodies deal with it in diverse ways. They store it as poison somewhere. Cancers, to migraines to colds. some kill and some hurt. Genetics and other things decide where. Lowering stress levels help lessen them all.

I suggested that perhaps when I'm older, I'll show better aptitude for still meditation and be able to identify and focus such energies into dev/null.

What might an AI use it's dev/null for?

Undoubtedly trippy s* to think about.
I think that depends on the framework that AI was created on... Do we make act like a human, or let it be it's own thing? In either case though it'll probably use it's /dev/null for what it feels is spam..
 
  


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