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Old 07-11-2012, 05:13 AM   #16
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If you are talking cost of a console vs cost of computer, yeah, consoles are cheaper.

If its cost of a computer + console vs cost of a computer for general use and gaming, costs would be very similar (same computer, just change the onboard/entry level video to something more gaming friendly- +$100-120 to 'how much have you got' for a gaming video card, maybe a win7 licence for those that dont want to stuff around with WINE)
 
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Then either game machines have risen dramatically in price or computer prices have fallen remarkably, since I left North America nine years ago.
Depends on how you calculate the costs. We Linux people tend to have computers anyways so I wouldn't calculate the costs for the computer as extra costs. The extra costs to have a similar or better experience, compared to a console, would be about 150€ for a good video card and about 100€ for a Windows license. The XBoX 360 is about 200€ here in Germany. Not that much difference and the video quality is much better on the PC. For example, I play Skyrim with enhanced lighting system and highres textures, something that is simply impossible on a console, because a) not enough power, and b) not possible to install custom mods.
And for anyone who wants to use a controller, the XBox360 pad works fine in Windows and Linux.
 
Old 07-11-2012, 01:34 PM   #18
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Because DX is meant to be windows only. If more games used openGL there would be more games that run on windows, linux and macOS.

I remember when you were more likely to have glide (3DFX) or openGL support over DX. Even when DX started getting more popular, for a long time glide or openGL were better.




I disagree. Its not clear cut, and consoles do have some use and advantages (main advantage is that there isnt any setting up required), but a decent computer with a decent video card can be much better overall. You can get better quality video from a computer, and more control over the video output. Mouse and keyboard is better than console controls for many games, and you can get console style controller for computers as well (if you dont use an actual console controller, LOL).

For setting up a computer for gaming vs a consoles the cost would be similar.

Yes but I'm not sure why DLL files or DirectX are inferior ? If DLL files or DirectX where not inferior than I'm sure Linux would use DLL files or DirectX .

What was it about DLL files or DirectX.
 
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If DLL files or DirectX where not inferior than I'm sure Linux would use DLL files or DirectX .
Why are you so sure? Those things are for Windows and given that Linux has nothing to do with Windows, there's no reason for it to. Linux has a similar thing to DLLs, shared libraries. As for DirectX, well, there are other APIs for similar things and someone above (cascade9) has mentioned one.
 
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What was it about DLL files or DirectX.
DX, pretty obious from the post IMO.

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Yes but I'm not sure why DLL files or DirectX are inferior ? If DLL files or DirectX where not inferior than I'm sure Linux would use DLL files or DirectX.
DX might be better, or might be worse depending on your point of view.

DX will not be used by linux, superior or inferior. DX was made for windows, its proprietary, it relies on COM (Component Object Model ). You are trying to make a _very_ complex subject simple.....

You might find some info and background here-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...L_and_Direct3D
 
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Why are you so sure? Those things are for Windows and given that Linux has nothing to do with Windows, there's no reason for it to. Linux has a similar thing to DLLs, shared libraries. As for DirectX, well, there are other APIs for similar things and someone above (cascade9) has mentioned one.
Ya but the poster was saying Dll files and DirectX is inferior of what Linux use. And do to I do not undertand both systems how really works I do not know pros or cons.

From what I undrstand DirectX allows game makers to make games to DirectX standards will out knowing what hardware will be used.And in the past before DirectX making games work on hardware was very hard for people making games has many games would not run on hardware being used.
 
Old 07-16-2012, 07:22 PM   #22
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The problem with gaming in a VM is not the available CPU power, but the lack of features and 3d performance of the virtual videocard. Gaming in a VM is currently no option, this may become better when PCI-passthrough works (and you have hardware capable of that).
The game I really wish I could play again is The Sims (the original version, because that's what I have), but last I checked, neither Wine nor VirtualBox could run it. (The problem is that the installer will need you to switch CDs to continue installation, and it always fails to recognize that the second disc is in.)
 
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The game I really wish I could play again is The Sims (the original version, because that's what I have), but last I checked, neither Wine nor VirtualBox could run it. (The problem is that the installer will need you to switch CDs to continue installation, and it always fails to recognize that the second disc is in.)
With Virtualbox this normally should not be a problem. Maybe you should try VMware Player, it has better 3D/video support anyways.
 
Old 07-30-2012, 09:46 AM   #24
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Or you could wait:

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“The big problem that is holding back Linux is games. People don’t realize how critical games are in driving consumer purchasing behavior.
“We want to make it as easy as possible for the 2,500 games on Steam to run on Linux as well. It’s a hedging strategy. I think Windows 8 is a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space. I think we’ll lose some of the top-tier PC/OEMs, who will exit the market. I think margins will be destroyed for a bunch of people. If that’s true, then it will be good to have alternatives to hedge against that eventuality.

https://allthingsd.com/20120725/valv...ws-8-and-more/
 
Old 07-30-2012, 10:04 AM   #25
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The game I really wish I could play again is The Sims (the original version, because that's what I have), but last I checked, neither Wine nor VirtualBox could run it. (The problem is that the installer will need you to switch CDs to continue installation, and it always fails to recognize that the second disc is in.)
Does it do the same if you use .iso files rather than physical media for Virtualbox? I've had problems installing from physical CDs in Virtualbox but .iso files seem to work better.
 
  


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