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When considered rationally, of course suicide is not an option, but someone who is suffering from true clinical depression is not capable of thinking rationally.
I've suffered from clinical depression most of my life (chemical imbalance), inherited it from my father who committed suicide when I was 10. Getting treatment was the best thing I ever did but I put it off until it was almost too late because of the stigma. With treatment and the right medication I was able to recover and have been off the meds for a good many years now.
I believe you, but you should know that any hereditary disease does not necessarily mean that you will get it, it usually just means you are more susceptible. The environment always plays a part in the appearance of such diseases, there's also usually a trigger for the appearance.
Furthermore, as my psychology teacher used to say, mental illness should NEVER be described as "chemical imbalance", that is a simplistic, meaningless characterization for a very complex, multifaceted phenomenon. It's much more than a "chemical imbalance".
You should also know that many mental illnesses can be cured through therapy without needing much or any medication, this is because what both medication and therapy are designed to change your mind, to change your outlook on things, and to get you to think positively and rationally. I realize that when you have a mental illness you do not think rationally, but that's usually because you let your thinking deteriorate to such a state.
actually , i myself was about to suicide , with the depression caused by some pills , which i was taking to increase my activity !
but as i'm sitting down and programming and so on ,,, i mean "the not moving" characteristic of me ,, that was the most hard time on my life lol... was about to take the whole bottle of that drug to end my life ..
maybe i was about to suicide cause of using a "crashing OS" like windows be4 ,,, but now life is much better with Mandriva <------- advertizing ha :P:P
All kidding aside... "the brain is an incredibly complicated thing, and so, sometimes it 'goes wrong.'" When and if it does, you might not realize what is happening because ... well ... you're "on the inside."
Occasional thoughts of "aww, fukkit..." are one thing. Clinical depression is another. It's a disease, and because of what it can make you do to yourself, it can be a terminal disease.
Depression can be easy to treat, if you seek treatment. But since, as I said, "you're on the inside," you might not do so. So either (a) you die, or (b) you suffer in misery. I've seen depression-like symptoms completely disappear after just a few days on an amino-acid that costs about $5 at a health-food store. (They feed it to horses, too.) Mind you, I'm no doctor. It might not be that simple. But... it might be, too.
The bottom line is: depression interferes with its own treatment. You feel like you must be the only one. (You're not.) You feel ashamed. (Don't.) You start giving up. (Watch out!)
Talk to someone. You can't "buck" this thing by yourself. Suicide-prevention lines are manned 24 hours a day. (They always need volunteers.) Ministers, friends, your neighbor, your garbage-man, your grocer. Someone. People who are "outside" can see the situation much more clearly than you can.
You're ill. Some folks get head-colds; other folks get depression. Either way you go to the doctor to get help... or maybe just qualified advice. Medical assistance won't cost you a dime if you find out where to look for it, and it doesn't mean that you'll spend the rest of your life "drugged out."
You might well grow right out of it. If you're in your mid-teens or so, hey, your body's on a serious hormone-buzz, and guess what those hormones do to your brain (besides making you think about sex 24/7). Yep, it comes with the territory. And that doesn't make it any less "real," or any less serious. Don't wait it out: get help.
You don't have to die this way ... and you don't have to live this way, either.
Last edited by sundialsvcs; 02-27-2009 at 06:03 PM.
The bottom line for suicide is this: GET ... HELP ... NOW!
There are folks who man suicide-prevention hotlines 24/7/365. When you are caught up in, say, "severe depression," it is entirely possible that you do not realize what is actually happening to you ... and that "what is happening to you" might well be a medical condition. Black depression can be caused by slight chemical and/or hormonal imbalances ... yes, even by something that you ate. It's the very nature of the beast that: it affects your perception. It never occurs to you that you need (and that you can get) help. And so depression kills a lot of people each year, and less-severe cases can utterly devastate a person's life for many years.
I considered it once... After I installed Windows ME.. lol
All joking aside, I get these feelings, but my mind has a different way if dealing with it, rather then beating myself up for some reason I am able to ground myself and tell myself that I am better then this, that I can do this and it just goes away.
It's when I go to sleep and I get these feelings I can't do anything about, I get very interesting images (if you can call it that). They are very deep. The last one I had I was in a bathroom with some checkered tiles, I was on the floor in a pool of my own blood... the most screwed up part i was smiling, like I wanted this to happen somehow, now there are no wounds i can see cause of all the blood everywhere, but in this dream i can't move.. it's like I am already dead but somehow I am seeing myself.
Now I wonder what counts as suicide ? Would taking it upon yourself to complete a mission that you are almost sure will result in your death count as suicide ?
Now I wonder what counts as suicide ? Would taking it upon yourself to complete a mission that you are almost sure will result in your death count as suicide ?
If you were the means of your own death, such as a suicide bomber, yes, obviously. If you were killed by the enemy, no.
If you were the means of your own death, such as a suicide bomber, yes, obviously. If you were killed by the enemy, no.
Interesting, so then I guess it just depends fully on who kills you. I guess I could just happen to be in front of a bus and have the bus driver kill me ... not suicide.
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