Enlightenment rules

light windowmanagers, i use windowmaker because it still has icons, but only the icons I want, although i used kde almost exclusively when i was first learning

Well I didn't even vote cos I can't decide. I have plenty RAM, and I have found that the main bottleneck in my machine seems to be the HD speed.

So while I used to be a WindowMaker lover, I find myself in KDE more and more, since its nice and actually runs just as fast as WM on my machine, since there is never any paging to the swap.

But gnome sucks big ones, for sure...

Good to see that window managers are winning!

Vlad_M, if you want to see big performance improvements, check out Icewm, it's amazing!
It boots almost instantly (1 second)... It takes less than 3Mg of memory.

Give it a try.

Lokee, I did try it and it is just way too ugly for me. WM boots in about 2 seconds, and takes about 10MB of memory. What I am talking about is that starting programs etc. takes just as long (which is not long anyway, with an exception oi Oo) with WM and KDE. As i am quite an aesthetics whore, I find myself using KDE almost exclusively these days.

But that's just me, and I can see how, for people who like the minimalist look, a straight wm can be better.

One thing for sure, we would not having this discussion if this was a windows forum, and that is what I love so much about Linux. We are still all using the same OS,. but just look at how different the presentation can be.

Yeah, I see your point.

Well, about the ugliness of Icewm; you can use themes... and gkrellm(which boosts the look and feel).

Anyways, it's your choice to use DEs, so ain't gonna argue.

i prefer dropline gnome.

what is dropline gnome?

isn't that like Red Carpet or something? Ie: automatic updates?

Dropline GNOME is a version of the GNOME Desktop that has been
tweaked for Slackware Linux systems. It is available in Slackware's
standard .tgz package format, in addition to the usual source code.
The current release is based off of the latest GNOME 2 distribution
from the GNOME Project.

more info + get it here.

I use the command line There is really no reason to run X on a webserver. And don't we have a Window Managers forum for stuff like this?

A couple of days ago I would have said desktop enviroment but I have tried blackbox and love it. It is faster, cleaner, more efficent and doesn't take all day to load.

If you like Blackbox, try Fluxbox (stable release 1.1.14 iirc) or one of the other variations on the BB code.

I spent several years using Motif, then CDE on both VMS and UNIX systems, so KDE looks, feels, and runs nicely for me, and it is a big improvement over both Motif and CDE. My Dell Dimension 4100 system runs well enough that I don't worry too much about top efficiency.

Even so, I appreciate XFCE, which is a really lightweight desktop manager. It looks and feels almost like CDE, but it seems to operate much more efficiently than either CDE or KDE.

So I still use both. But recently I've gotten atached to XFCE over KDE. When I run on my two 400 MHz systems, then I definitely prefer XFCE. Otherwise, I use XFCE if its available on the distro I happen to be using, otherwise I use KDE.

Has anyone thinked of using Idesk(icons) with fluxbox?
Personally, I think it kinda ruins the sense of having a WM.