Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread

Microsoft bets on windows 8 !

Originally Posted by TigerLinux Microsoft bets on windows 8 !

What's the point of this post.

Originally Posted by TigerLinux Microsoft bets on windows 8 !

Of course they do. What would be the point in developing it if they don't?
Canonical bets on Ubuntu 12.04, so what is the point?

Originally Posted by k3lt01 What's the point of this post.

I believe that the point of his post was to troll. He's got a pattern of doing so.

Originally Posted by trademark91 I believe that the point of his post was to troll. He's got a pattern of doing so.

There are way to many trolls in the dungeon.

Windows will not go demise, some people predict the demise of windows due to Cloud computing,
but i just don't think so.

Originally Posted by TigerLinux Windows will not go demise, some people predict the demise of windows due to Cloud computing, but i just don't think so.

I am not sure if you understand what people are talking. I have not seen anyone commenting demise of Windows and that to due to cloud computing. You just seem to be a big troll and nothing more.

Hi,

Originally Posted by TigerLinux Windows will not go demise, some people predict the demise of windows due to Cloud computing, but i just don't think so.

You can provide evidence for this statement?

Well, hearsay is a type of evidence...

Originally Posted by sundialsvcs What they should be doing is sitting down with a copy of Who Says Elephants Can't Dance? by Lou Gertsner, formerly chairman of IBM. In this well-written book (which, AFAIK, he actually wrote himself...) he spells out in no uncertain terms what sort of bush-hogging treatment he had to give to the "powers that be" within that corporation. (When you are capo dei capi, you can do that sort of thing... ... authority has its privileges.) Right now, Microsoft thinks that it still has a monopoly, and it is still acting as though it does, when the harsh technical reality is that it doesn't. Apple transitioned their systems to 64-bit and nobody even noticed. So did Linux, by and large. Meanwhile, Microsoft is trying to figure out yet another way to make their Internet Explorer browser, which they most-foolishly wedged into the guts of their entire user interface, incompatible with everybody else on the planet in yet another new and creative way. The industry has quite studiously turned its back on Microsoft, and Microsoft's own repeated (and still-repeated!) actions are the reason why. Microsoft does not have a "monopoly" now, they were very rapacious when they briefly did, and so they never will be permitted to have one again.

The CLASSIC scenario of why many big, thriving corporations fail/become irrelevant. They are so big and have so many people involved in decision-making, that they can not move fast enough (nor toward the right target) to stay in-tune with what consumers want; they practice philosophies which alienate their customers, rather than serve their needs [Ebay is a glaring example of this!]; They ignore the sentiments/feedback of dissenting customers/critics/ex-customers, thinking they are too big to fail, and that they can dictate the market rather than adapt to it.

By the time they realize they are in decline, it is usually too late to do anything about it.

Or maybe they just have to pay for their sins......

Another good example of this is Google. They seem to think that they can do what they want with their user's info/track them/spam them with endless advertising. Well, I just cancelled all of my Google accounts/services; stopped using Chromium; etc. I'm sure I can't be the only one who has done so/will do so- but by the time enough people do it to make it matter, it will be too late change (Actually, it is too late to change already- the decisions that were made by Google were long in planning and have long-term implications for their business model and can not just be abandoned over-night)- so I guess their problem was in thinking that people wouldn't care...or that people couldn't do without their services.... -they have chosen to screw their customers...thinking that their actions will have no consequences.

Hi,

Originally Posted by netcrawl Well, hearsay is a type of evidence...

Yes! But the OP has not answered the request. You did! What is the OPs' source? Is that better?

Originally Posted by Sumguy The CLASSIC scenario of why many big, thriving corporations fail/become irrelevant. They are so big and have so many people involved in decision-making, that they can not move fast enough (nor toward the right target) to stay in-tune with what consumers want; they practice philosophies which alienate their customers, rather than serve their needs [Ebay is a glaring example of this!]; They ignore the sentiments/feedback of dissenting customers/critics/ex-customers, thinking they are too big to fail, and that they can dictate the market rather than adapt to it.

Microsoft's problem is that they refused to consider the legitimacy of any operating system other than their own. And, they stubbornly linked their entire business model to the "supremacy" of that system. They have only made the most token efforts to publish their products on any operating-system other than "Windows the latest," even though they possess a thoroughly cross-platform development system that they now occasionally use for the Macintosh.

Originally Posted by Sumguy Another good example of this is Google. They seem to think that they can do what they want with their user's info/track them/spam them with endless advertising. Well, I just cancelled all of my Google accounts/services; stopped using Chromium; etc. I'm sure I can't be the only one who has done so/will do so- but by the time enough people do it to make it matter, it will be too late change (Actually, it is too late to change already- the decisions that were made by Google were long in planning and have long-term implications for their business model and can not just be abandoned over-night). So I guess their problem was in thinking that people wouldn't care...or that people couldn't do without their services.... -they have chosen to screw their customers...thinking that their actions will have no consequences.

I am quite sure that you are right about this. I wanted you to carry my mail, but not to read it. And I wanted you to create a searchable index without attempting to construct a secret dossier about me based on where and what I search. I also wanted the URL-strings in your search results to take me directly to the target site without incrementing a counter in your marketing database.

I think that the repercussions for Google will be far more sudden, far more harsh, and far more permanent than anything which Microsoft ever experienced. The only reason why people haven't yet said, "Hey! That's none of your fsckin' business!!" is that it hasn't quite been shoved into their face often enough exactly what is going on.

There are already social-networking sites, chat servers, and mail servers that take the wholly-decentralized approach already demonstrated by Napster, and which encrypt everything that is said ... not meant to be in an "impenetrable" way, but rather in a "it's none of your tinker's dam biz-ness, stranger!" way.

And of course, it isn't "any of your biz-ness, stranger!" What I say to my friends is my business. The post office doesn't steam-open every letter that it handles, and the telephone company requires a warrant (supposedly...) to wiretap your phone. These expectations of ordinary courtesy, privacy and discretion do exist, and people are only now coming to terms with just how thoroughly they have been violated. I would not want to have built my massive business around the notion that "nobody has figured me out yet," but Google did. (And so did Facebook and a lot of other now-big institutions.)

Is there dependency resolution while installing software from repositories in salixOS?

Salix has two software managers, Gslapt and Sourcery. It does attempt to resolve dependencies automatically, but it depends on whether the source supports dependency resolution or not. I have experienced when it was automatically resolved. But there were times that I needed to install deps separately, all of the deps are readily available in the sourcery or gsapt. When the install failed due to dependency I only went to SlackBuild.org and examined what deps are needed and proceeded to install them one by one from the sourcery manager. No big thing.

Hope that helps.

Originally Posted by trademark91 It is quite ugly, and klunky to navigate as well. To me it feels like a phone OS but on a desktop (where it doesnt belong)

I would even venture to say that I'd rather use the 'normal' (Windows 7) environment on a phone or tablet.

Originally Posted by onebuck Hi, Yes! But the OP has not answered the request. You did! What is the OPs' source? Is that better?

Yes, excellent. And now I'm spitting out the OP's flashy troll.