Because Shiny Things Are Fun - The New New Windows v Linux Thread

Related (): I don't understand why people don't like X11. After using Windows Explorer and Quartz, X11 is dreamy. Conclusion: Linux users have high standards.

Speaking of which, I'd love for Wal-mart to hurry up and hire (or deny) me. They said up to 60 days -- but come on. Tick, tock, tick, tock...

I am definitely selling my Mac (if I can at this point ). Right now, I am debating whether or not I even want to invest in another laptop. I am really leaning towards just building my own desktop computer -- that way I can get everything I want and need and be happy with it. I have gotten to the point where I trust myself more than an assembly line in China. Plus, it's a logical step in my progression of learning everything about computers that I can. This will probably be the first thing I purchase with the money I make from whatever job I get (hopefully Wal-mart).

Unrelated: I don't understand why people don't like X11. After using Windows Explorer and Quartz, X11 is dreamy. Conclusion: Linux users have high standards.

I don't understand how this is "unrelated"...it's comparing an aspect of Linux with aspects of other OSes, and I'd say that's relatively on-topic.

Originally Posted by Kenny_Strawn How am I committing that sin? Just what am I doing to murder or physically attack anyone? Just how am I any different than Jesus (depicted in the Seven Deadly Sins TV program on the History Channel showing a fist) with his actions towards the greedy tax collectors and sacrificial animal scalpers at the Temple?

Maybe you should remember yourself in how many posts you wished death to Steve Ballmer or Steve Jobs? That is a little bit more than Jesus had done, Jesus even doesn't hated the "greedy tax collectors and sacrificial animal scalpers at the Temple".

But enough of the religious stuff, I personally think that Microsoft is not so evil as you think. Many corporations try to do the same as Microsoft, just trying to get the biggest marketshare and hold it, but you wouldn't consider them evil.

Originally Posted by MrCode I don't understand how this is "unrelated"...it's comparing an aspect of Linux with aspects of other OSes, and I'd say that's relatively on-topic.

Hehehe, I guess that's true.

Originally Posted by TobiSGD Maybe you should remember yourself in how many posts you wished death to Steve Ballmer or Steve Jobs? That is a little bit more than Jesus had done, Jesus even doesn't hated the "greedy tax collectors and sacrificial animal scalpers at the Temple". But enough of the religious stuff, I personally think that Microsoft is not so evil as you think. Many corporations try to do the same as Microsoft, just trying to get the biggest marketshare and hold it, but you wouldn't consider them evil.

It's capitalism in general that's really that evil. Its foundation -- Adam Smith's "invisible hand" -- is literally the deadly sin of greed in itself that has come to bring the world into a dystopia of greed.

Originally Posted by Zetec Chimps came before humans. Your point?

Who said X11 is so bad compared to Windows (especially the first versions)?

Anyway, this reminds me that there is now an alternative to X called Wayland (but it's still in early development), and Ubuntu is planning on ditching X for it. I wonder what you think of it, I don't really know much about this kind of stuff. As far as I understand it's supposed to be neater, less bloated, and work better with modern 3D graphics.

I'm looking forward for Wayland too.

I praised the linux community for continuing to improve linux and make it better and better.

Even if the masses out there don't care to use linux, the linux community do it for us because we appreciate the hard work and time they put forth.

- Cheers

Linux Rules !!!

I like X though. Seems so stable, fast and configurable.

Then again, I probably wouldn't even notice the change.

Originally Posted by Kenny_Strawn It's capitalism in general that's really that evil. Its foundation -- Adam Smith's "invisible hand" -- is literally the deadly sin of greed in itself that has come to bring the world into a dystopia of greed.

Suggest a better system.

Originally Posted by leopard Suggest a better system.

That's the thing, there isn't one and Kenny doesn't understand that. Capitalism is the best way. Socialist ideals lead to more Government control and Kenny isn't about that. Then there's communism, which is the opposite of what Kenny wants. Honestly, economy systems in theory sound great, but there's no way for a perfect Government. Have you read the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx? What he proposes sounds amazing to be honest. But once it was put into practice and people like Stalin come to power, you have corruption. Capitalism lets you thrive and is only corrupted if you let it get so. Yes, it's gotten bad. Kenny, you're not smart enough to come with something in between because there is no in between and there will always be people who can exploit it. But, it is against the law to have a monopoly in this country (look it up Kenny) which is why Mac and GNU/Linux has the right to exist. Microsoft can never take that away and they can't stand on any grounds to take it away. All they can do is compete. If you want a different government, leave the US. We won't really miss you.

Back on topic, I might actually try the Ubuntu (even though I dislike it) that ships Wayland just to see how it runs. And I wasn't trying to start a war about X and what not. It was a joke because us Linux people love the CLI so we probably wouldn't have left it.

Originally Posted by leopard Speaking of which, I'd love for Wal-mart to hurry up and hire (or deny) me. They said up to 60 days -- but come on. Tick, tock, tick, tock...

Oh snap Wal-Mart? Everyone looks so unhappy there!!! I don't want to see that happen to you leopard and lose your cheery disposition!!!

Originally Posted by soppy Back on topic, I might actually try the Ubuntu (even though I dislike it) that ships Wayland just to see how it runs.

Is Wayland an exclusive project of Ubuntu?

Originally Posted by jiml8 Some of my business administration is still done in Win2K and Wordperfect 8,

That brings back fond memories (Corel Office 8) and 98SE on an old 300 meg cyrix processor with 64 meg mem. I am retired now but used it in my business till about four years ago. I lost it in a hurricane two years ago.

Originally Posted by dv502 Is Wayland an exclusive project of Ubuntu?

Ubuntu will be the first one to ship with Wayland. There are rumours that Fedora will do the same at a later stage.

Originally Posted by dv502 Is Wayland an exclusive project of Ubuntu?

No, but as far as I know, Wayland will ship first in Ubuntu.