why dont people see linux as the future? are they BLIND!!!??? i mean, every single day i read slashdot, and not a day goes by where there isnt at least 2 linux stories, mostly about linux on servers, but a lot of the times its a desktop linux news article.

apple sees the future of open source (BSD on MacOS X), IBM (its obvoius), Sun, HP, Dell, gateway, need i say more? the only people opposed are those hardcore windows users who bash on linux every change they get, and most of the time they've never even used linux, and those who are affraid to make the move. they'll have to face the facts sooner or later: LINUX WILL RULE THE DESKTOP!

I see you don't have a question really

acutally, i do. i thought i stated it, but not clearly though, so here it is:

why dont people stop bashing linux. in fact, why do they bash it in the first place? can't they see it has gone from a "what is linux?" point of view to "linux? isnt that the superior OS nobody uses" standpoint in a few years.

long question summoned to this: since linux is superior in every way (yes, every way) to windows, why isnt it already on everyone's desktop as an option? when you buy a pc, why cant you get the option to have windows or linux without a big fuss?

Uh... who's bashing linux... ?


As for choosing the OS, most mail-order companies at least have an option of clean system without OS (i.e. windows), if not an explicit option for linux (for a charge, of course). I think the only case the consumer does not really have an option is in the retail stores like Best Buy, CompUSA and the likes.

It's good to be passionate about technology and advancing the spread of information but let's not be blinded by outright bias. Windows has a place, like all useful tools.


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look up ghandicon level 3.

that's why they're bashing.

Kinda hypocritical considering many many many linux users bash windows every time it is mentioned. Do you consider it allright for linux people to curse at anyone useing windows, yet they are not allowed to give their opinions on linux? If I say that I use windows, most of the time there is always one guy who writes "windoze sucks!". That is really helpful. Mayhaps you should address the issue of people are free to like what they will, but are not free to insult what they will. I am attacked most of the time when I say I like Macs or I like windows, why would you do this? It is an attack on windows and macs, but OH MY GOD, when the windows use retaliates and says Linux sucks, EVERYONE bashes him!

And slashdot is biased. It is not a place to go to examine the behavior of an average windows user, it is like saying the KKK represents the christian west while osama represents the muslim east. It is not a representational portion of the windows community, it is simply those who believe in trolling around and insulting things they do not comprehend.

you forget about usability and the fact that the newbie has to be able to install, configure it and install software without pain.
A windows user cannot install and run a distro like slackware without actually read a little. He is not use to kde and will probably find it ugly, will like to mount the windows partition, listen cd...

For linux to be used by more people, it would have to be easier to install, it would have default application installed like mp3 player, dvdplayer, p2p installed, mozilla plugins installed, openoffice and lots of software commonly used(but not installed by default on all distros).
As for slashdot, i don't even read their BS.


Don't also forget about the fact, that people don't care about how it runs, don't even know which hardware they have and don't want to know about it, how to configure it, they just want to run the application and it has to work for them at first try.

Most of web sites said "linux not ready for the desktop" but how cares except the ones that want to promote linux on the desktop. If you want to use it, if it doesn't meets your requirements and needs, forget about it and don't bother people about it if you don't read first, that's all i say to people asking me minutes after minutes how do I....without trying reading,etc...

I do a little promotion about linux but i encourage people to read even a little about linux, permissions,etc...before installing it.

people have to bash someone/something, It's not life until you bash something. Look at car people (this may be more related to america) you have domestics (i.e. mustangs, Z28's vipers etc.) and then you have imports (nissans, honda's etc...) all the two do is argue over why the other one sucks more and why theres is better.

Lets move on to sports... (once again this is related to americans) you have baseball and football.. two completely diffren't sports.. but the hardcore baseball fans dont like football, and the hardcore football fans hate baseball. once again they will bash the other and state why their fav is better.

All im saying is it is human nature.. democratic. or republican :shrugs: its human nature.

Damn, I missed that part. Well heres a rebuttal.

Its YOUR opinion that it is better, how can YOU decide if it is the best in the world? To begin with, it isnt, games suck with linux. Linux is not designed for gamers and never will be. Wow, just that one point takes linux from a LOT of people. Then you come to the fact that most computer illerterate people can use windows and install things easily. With linux its a pain in the ass when you get so many dependancies, and plus, there is very little paid software for linux. You all think this is a good thing, but guess what? I bought Jasc photoshop 8 and I have yet to find something which is its equivalent in Linux. And I dont think there ever will be, know why? There is not incentive for a programmer to make Jasc for linux, it is too much effort and you do not even get paid for it. You may say that the GIMP is as good as jasc, but its not. Period. Opensource is allright for simple apps, but there is a distinct lack, IMHO, of high quality apps.

Then to installing apps, even my mother can install stuff on windows, but when I showed her the terminal and how to install stuff in slack, she just left. It is too hard for computer stupid people to learn to use linux. It isnt easy, it isnt as user friendly, I have a n00b disto on my comp right now, FC1, and there is nothing I could find like the windows troubleshooting guides. They may not be the best guides for windows, but did you know that it will stop people from asking stupid questions?

I happen to like linux, but it is not for everyone and never will be. It is NOT better than windows in every way. I have never had a problem with windows, know why? Im not a downloading fool. I have a moron of a brother who seems to think that installling about 50 download acceletators (which I think are bullshit) and all sorts of crap like that wont hurt his computer. I then checked out msconfig and he had about 25 things booting at startup, and he wondered why it was SLOW????

Then he had his virtual drive (swap for windows) set at 300 mgs when he has 512 mb of ram. Then he started getting booted out of games saying there was not enough vitural memory. Well, I went on and changed it to a 1 gig vm drive and all was happy, yet if a Linux user got a message like that they would curse windows and bitch about it for hours.

I have noticed linux users are happy to track down tons of problems with hardware compatability and setting things up, but the second there is a little problem, which in genereal is simple to fix in windows, they gotta go out and bash it. People bitch about outlook express, my view? DONT USE IT! You can easily uninstall it, it has a windows tool for it. It may not completly remove it from your system, but it buries it in the windows folder so the only way you can get at it is to dig through there and click on it. To whine about superficial things which take 5 minutes to fix, is just stupid.

Don't get me wrong, I like linux, but it is NOT perfect and is NOT the unlitmate os. I don't think there can even be an ultimate os, it is not physically possible. Its like a computer with no problems at all, impossible to do. I happen to enjoy FC1 and Slack but even so, I know they have problems. You claim the windows sucks because of automatic updates, well I would prefer it to automatically update rather than have me manually do it. It is better that it automatically updates, it allows the security holes to be fixed faster than if people had to go and manually get it.

In conclusion, Linux and Windows both have their places, neither is superior, for both have pluses and cons. There is no one ultimate, the best is a combo of both to get the best of both (or the problems of both if your pecessemistic )

i mean, i installed (showed how to install) mandrake on a friends computer. he used it for a while, and decided "linux sux". i asked him "why do you think that?" he started complaining about games support (which isnt an excuse, because of winex3), then i explained winex3 to him. then he said it was too slow. i went over, made his system faster, and it was twice as fast as windows. then he found something else to complain about. the fact is, he was just looking for something to complain about. there really wasnt anything wrong with linux, i think he was just too scared to make the big jump. this was a while ago.
in fact, he hosted a lan party, and i was there to boast my linux laptop. everyone was awed about the way it looked, and how fast it was, and how cool the games were on it (starcraft, half-life, tribes, quake). they wanted to know what version of windows it was, and what i was using to theme it...i told them it was linux, and the crowd dissolved. even though they saw its power, i guess they saw linux as "unpopular". that's when the bashing started: linux sucks, its not popular, you cant customize it. of course, all these were misconceptions.

We hear a lot about this "Linux is not ready for the desktop". I disagree. IMO, it's the people who are not ready. Everybody wants everything to be so easy to use and do everything they want without having to think about how it's done, and when something goes wrong they don't want to know why...they just want it to be fixed.
Well....today's technology ain't like that. No way in heck do we have the knowledge and ability to create machines that will do what we want without ever having problems. There are 2 ways we can deal with this...we can either spend some time learning how to fix (or to work around) the problems, or we can stay stupid and pay out the nose for someone else to fix it. A lot of people want to do the second one, yet they still complain when things go wrong.

I guess it can be compared to owning a car...if you know how it works you can generally keep it running smoothly for a long time. If you don't want to know what's under the hood, you'll have to depend on others to fix your troubles. In the case of a closed-source OS, though, that hood is welded shut so you don't even have the option of learning what's under there.

Many Linux distros can do anything Windows can do just as easily, straight out of the box....most people are just set into doing things in a certain way (the Windows way). Anything different is looked at as being more difficult, when the truth is people are just lazy.

im like that, or i was like that. i wanted everything to work out of the box. and linux, thanks to suse, now does that, so that's not an excuse anymore. with suse, just install and use, that simple. no configuration needed. in fact, i *KNOW* that configuring suse with yast is way easier than finding and configuring stuff in windows using its contorl panel, which can be confusing and frusturating. with KDE, your put into the windows dekstop-look-alike, so interface again is not an excuse.

i installed suse 9.0 when it first came out, and i havent configured anything or messed with anything, and its running better than windows.

Not everyone even KNOWS what Linux is. Not everyone understands the concept of what an OS is. I am in high school and hardly ANYONE is computer literate.

Ask them what 127.0.0.1 is. I bet 1% of the people at my school know what it is. Some might understand that is an IP, but then put it into context like this: "There's no place like 127.0.0.1". Then you might get a .1% of the people - 1/1000.

Or you can ask them what OS they use. Half of the people - SERIOUSLY - wouldn't know.

Ask them what version of M$ Word they have, and some of them will tell you Windows XP - I know from experience. Very difficult.

Ask them if they would use Linux, and they will ask, "What is linux?".

The youth today don't have a clue about linux. Most adults don't know what linux is - those who know of linux usually have preconcieved ideas that the linux group is for hard core programming geeks and not a real OS.

The above is your answer to, "why don't people realize Linux is better?".

What's the point of this post, not everyone cares about computers. Someone could ask me, "so who'dya think's gonna win the big game?" and I would have no clue. I bet they don't go on sports forums and say "OMG, this kid i talked to knows NOTHING about sports."