so to begin.... i am the uber newbie, but im trying to read as many books and just dive right in to linux as best i can. after considerable research, i THINK fedora core 1 is a good place as any to start. well, install went great (i.e. soundcard detected, video card detected, and i can get on the internet) so thats pretty good as far as i know. in fact, i love it, and everything ive seen so far in linux is just simply amazing. well i wanted to do the right thing and use the update capabilities that fedora offers. so i use the little flashing exclamation point to try and get up2date to go..it tells me im not registered with RHN...fine, so i register. then, it goes through thiis incrediblly slow process of something and really doesnt show me that its doing anything at all. i have read in more than one place that a lot of people have had a lot of luck with yum. but unfortunately, i have not the slightest clue as to how to install anything into my system...im trying to read in some general lunux books and in some forums, but im jsut unsure of how applicable the information is. so myquestions are:
1. am i doing something wrong with up2date?
2. if i download yum, what do i do with it?

man.....i hope someone listens, and wants to help....thanks in advance
-robocon

I dunno about Fedora, but with RH 9 I think you have to pay 20$/year to use the update thingy.
As for Yum, you probably can install that like any other application you install.
Either :
- you download the rpm,
- su
- on the commandline type "rpm -ivh yum-2.0.5-1.noarch.rpm" (or whatever the name is of the rpm you downloaded)
-exit

Or:
- you download the tarball (file with extention tar.gz), this normally contains the sources of the programm, so you have to compile it
- untar (tar xvzf yum-2.0.5.tar.gz )
- cd yum-2.0.5
- see if you can find a file called README or INSTALL and read it!
- ./configure
- make
- su
- make install
- exit

Note: if you get an error during configure, this means usually that you are missing a package, so try to find it and install it (configure;make;make install), then configure again.

This should help you get started.
Good luck!

you might try this link http://fedora.artoo.net/faq/#InstallSoftware it also has a link to a better yum config the problem with up2date is redhats servers
which are very slow if you look farther down on that page it will tell you how to make up2date work alot faster

wow, thanks for all the input. it makes a guy feel welcome in a community. i will try getting the new yum package, then give it a shot. if i have any problems....bet that i will be back.
-robocon

It does work...., (I used it 3 days ago) - you just have to put some different mirrors in the RHN config file (the default ones are slow) namely

/etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources

su to Root user in an xterm then do

editor /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources

were editor is your text editor - for me its

kedit /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources

then comment out your existing repos. and put you're two new ones in like this:

yum fedora-core-1 <http://....../1/i386/os/>

yum updates-released <http://...../updates/1/i386/>

I just simply Emac'd /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources

commented out the following
yum updates-released http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/released/fedora-core-1
#yum updates-testing http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-1

and added the following

yum updates-released http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/updates/1/386
#yum updates-etsting http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/cor.../testing/1/386

After that, reloaded Up2date, and selected the new server.
worked like a charm

There was a bug in the first version of the Up2Date applet (v2.1.2) that brought up the "not registered" message. Once Up2Date gets updated to a later version (such as 2.1.4), you won't get the message.

One of the better things about Fedora over RedHat is that they removed all the registration stuff from these tools.

Use yum.http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrp...a/linux/1/yum/

Haha... I stopped using Fedora and switched to Gentoo because of the useless up2date program... so slow and had too many problems with dodgy keys - eughh so annoying! Anyway, after using gentoo's emerge program (which works perfectly out of the box) I thought that despite the complexities involved with usign Gentoo linux I would stick with it. Then one day, bang the hard drive goes. DOH!!!!!! Now there was no way I was going to go through the painstaking process of setting up Gentoo as I wanted it again so I went back to Fedora.

Up2Date sucked even more cos' so many packages needed updating. Read your bit about yum and used the link to the new yum.conf file (old one was in /etc/yum.conf FYI). I have to say a !!!HUGE!!! Thank you! If only redhat would sort themselves out and fix what is probably the number one reason for people leaving a distro - inability to update / install new stuff (IMHO).

Anyway just thought I'd feedback.

Cheers!,

Owen.

What's the big deal?

Just use one set of recommended settings for apt, yum AND up2date/RHN from...

www.xades.com/proj/fedora_repos.html

...just make sure you're either root or do sudo when you try to edit those files, job done.