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Old 02-06-2004, 07:34 PM   #1
Paul_Vandenberg
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Konqueror fonts in KDE 3.2


Hi,

I have pretty much a standard out of the box Fedora installation. I downloaded the KDE 3.2 RPMs and installed them without any problem. Everthing works great, except for Konqueror. Some web pages have huge fonts. Changing the font size in Settings has no effect. I've always liked Konqueror, but this is preventing me from using it. Any ideas?

Thanks....Paul
 
Old 02-06-2004, 10:26 PM   #2
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Re: Konqueror fonts in KDE 3.2

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Originally posted by Paul_Vandenberg
Hi,

I have pretty much a standard out of the box Fedora installation. I downloaded the KDE 3.2 RPMs and installed them without any problem. Everthing works great, except for Konqueror. Some web pages have huge fonts. Changing the font size in Settings has no effect. I've always liked Konqueror, but this is preventing me from using it. Any ideas?

Thanks....Paul
Check in your /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers file and look for a line like this:
Code:
:0 local@tty1 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt7
Change the 100 in the line to 75 and restart the xserver and kdm I'm totally sure how on Fedora but on Debian you do this by a console login as normal user then use su to become root and /etc/init.d/kdm restart this would restart both and give you a new login screen, you may have to adjust up some of the smaller font sizes and you may want to look at the /etc/X11XF86Config-4 (again Debian's file) and make sure the lines that look similar to this:
Code:
FontPath      "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath      "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
Have the 100 below the 75.
 
Old 02-07-2004, 02:27 PM   #3
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Thank you...I'll give it a try!

Paul
 
Old 02-07-2004, 05:57 PM   #4
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It helped, but most things are still too big. I can use Konq's Decrease Font Size button, but I have to do this everytime I go to these pages....very annoying. Hopefully, this will be better when Fedora Core 2 comes out.
 
Old 02-07-2004, 06:10 PM   #5
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It helped, but most things are still too big. I can use Konq's Decrease Font Size button, but I have to do this everytime I go to these pages....very annoying. Hopefully, this will be better when Fedora Core 2 comes out.
Well hopefully it gets better not that it is any good to you but if anything when I installed 3.2 here on my Debian the fonts got even better than they already were. What version of libfreetype6 do you have installed everytime it gets upgraded on my install the fonts seem to get better this was even before the 3.2 I have 2.1.7-2. And what fonts are you using I usually get the free bitstream-vera ones and use them most of the time plus I have the MS webcore fonts installed for anything that makes use of them.
 
Old 02-10-2004, 09:52 AM   #6
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I'm also experiencing some font troubles with KDE 3.2 with Fedora Core 1. Some fonts are indeed too large but my favorite font, monospace, is suddenly always bold. Take a look. This is a small python file, and normally the "def" keyword is bold and the rest isn't...
 
Old 03-11-2004, 03:27 PM   #7
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I had exactly the same issue with Fedora and KDE 3.2 - suddenly my monospace font (and only that one) was always bold. Damn strange, and extremely annoying.

After tearing my hair out for a few hours, I found downgrading the "fontconfig" package to that supplied with Redhat 9 fixes the problem.

Cheers... Mike
 
Old 04-01-2004, 10:42 PM   #8
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Konqueror fonts in KDE 3.2 to large FIXED!

I also had this problem. After installing kde 3.2 on my fedora box the fonts on some web pages in konqueror were huge and could not be adjusted. I do not use kde (I prefer gnome) but my wife uses kde and this was unaceptable to her, so I started to troubleshoot this problem . After a while I became obsessed with it and wasted nearly a day playing around with it. I finally found a solution I am not sure why it works but it does. Fedora comes with gdm as the default login manager, so I installed kdm (included in the kdeutls package) and made kdm my default login manager rebooted, logged in with kdm, and all the fonts in konqueror look perfect! I like gdm better but after playing around with kdm I found I was able to configure it to make it look nicer (although it doesn't have themes like gdm) gnome is not affected it still looks good. One added benefit from using kdm is you now get the shutdown and reboot options on your logout screen in gnome and kde. hope this helps
 
Old 04-01-2004, 11:30 PM   #9
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the better way is to wait the next edition of fedora 2, all these problems will be fixed as we desired.
 
Old 04-25-2004, 02:19 AM   #10
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font-size unitsI

I, too, have been researching this problem and I think I may have found a partial answer. When I began using Konqueror in KDE 3.2, I noticed that some, but not all, pages where using much larger fonts when compared to Mozilla firefox. Although many people have quoted the 75/100dpi answer in the past, I don't think that what we are seeing here as that problem is far more global in scope.

After comparing many webpages, I determined that the problem occurs when a webpage uses "pt" as the units to the font-size style. Try it out by creating a test webpage and repeat the same paragraph using "px", "em" and "pt" in reasonable sizes:

12px
1em
12pt

Compare the page with Mozilla and you will see that in Konqueror, the 12pt setting renders a very large font in the paragraph. It is as if Konqueror is scaling the unit of "pt" disproportionally. The only way to bring down the size of the font is to zoom in/out in Konqueror, as this scaling problem does not really adapt well to the "medium" font size setting in Konqueror. It comes down to web development standards, as the unit "pt" just shouldn't be used anymore.

When you adjust the "medium" font size, you are basically setting the size of 1em, whatever pleases you.

To me, it seems like a bug...I would really like to see if the KDE developers agree that this is the cause of the size discrepancy.
 
  


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