hi
i saw some reviews about fedora 14
i tried fedora 12 and 11 before but got a lot bad performance (speed , problems with VLC,......)
i hope it was solved in new releases
so i am asking about ur idea about the new fedora if u tried it !
thanks in advance

We can't tell you if problems that you had on your old fedora installations which you haven't detailed in any depth at all are "resolved" now. In all likelihood they weren't actual problems with Fedora in the first place. I can say my fedora 13 and 14 systems have been fine, but that should really mean as little to you as your question does to anyone else.

i am talking about the general system
when i tried to install the system before it sometimes give error and if i tried again it succeed !!! untested system from my idea
i am trying to get more info from users who tried it
how they feel about it , ............

i like f14

can u say the things u like in fc14?

Hi

Please give context to your statements if you want meaningful answers. So if you had problems with Fedora 11/12, what were they exactly? (Note saying "speed, vlc etc" is not sufficient)

I have used F11, F12, F13 and F14 - and though there are configuration challenges initially, once you sort these out you're pretty much sorted. Speed of the OS was never an issue and I don't understand what you mean by you tried "something" and had to retry to get it working. Please explain further.

i tried on P3 machine and it was very slow compared to slackware or ubuntu
i tried to update the system and found it needs around 1G of files to download (what is that!!!!)
when i tried to code some scripts tk/tcl the program was crashing !!!
when i used the same code on another os it was working perfect!
i used vlc and some other programs and they didnt work probably on the system (hangs , slow motion ,.... )

best regards

Hi

I'd expect it to be slower than Slackware; however Ubuntu performance should be comparable to be honest. I've found F14 to be as good as Lucid (haven't had a chance to try 10.10) in terms of the speed of the OS during general use. If you're installing on the same P3 machine I suggest you disable resource consuming applications such as Compiz.

Remember Fedora is a very fast paced OS in terms of its development; and thus this was updates for all your packages (so if you say install F14 today and then update 6 months from now, you can expect an update of that size roughly; depending on what packages you've installed.

Another point to note is that Ubuntu is precisely the same; in fact with Ubuntu you HAVE to download everything whether new or an update (with Fedora you could use your DVD as a repo and avoid having to download new packages).


Well, I can't guarantee you won't run into the same problems now; however I have noticed that F14 is much less buggy out the box - with much fewer patches/updates released; than say F11. The Fedora team have being trying to gear the OS to a more "consumer" market and have most things working out of the box with little configuration - its definitely no Ubuntu/Mint; but thats not the purpose behind Fedora anyway (in my opinion )

i have found fedora to be slower then slackware but faster then ubuntu. Especially concerning graphics or cpu intensive tasks. slackware is hard to beat at stuff like that though. yum is amazing. fedora is always putting new stuff in, forces me to learn about new things, a lot i have never even thought of. I could read up on 3rd party software but i wouldn't have looked for somethings that fedora has put in for me. Had to go learn about those. I like selinux. sssd sounds pretty neat. I like pam. I like repos and yum, even though they can make source from outside the repos a real pain to deal with. I like gnome. I use RHEL at work.

Ubuntu does have a nice desktop. I like their package installer for somethings, past the basics i don't like it, which is how i feel about ubuntu for the most part. I'm not running it down and i still try every new release to see what they have done but its not right for me, at least not yet. I haven't tried their server version. **note to self try ubuntu server...

I haven't messed with sssd or abrtd much. abrtd doesnt sound very exciting but i have only read a little. I doubt I will get much use out of either. I don't have a laptop for sssd. When i submit bugs i usually write my own up. Abrtd did submit a bug for me last week though, seemed to work. It got marked as a duplicate. was selinux execstack for printing i think, i was in a hurry.


I use to use slackware+dropline for my desktop. I would get insanely good refresh rates in NeverWinter nights. Blow away my friends windows machine, very similiar hardware. I couldn't get it to work well in fedora or debian. I don't think ubuntu was out then. I should note I don't like dumbian so ymmv. Compared to what i read online i was getting better refresh rates then people with dumbian though. Fedora was just a bit slower then slackware. Still faster then windows on average but it would have slow spikes.


It's like goldilocks, slackware is to cold and ubuntu is to hot. But fedora is just right! for somethings. It just depends on what you are doing.


If your comparing fedora to slackware and ubuntu...

1. i think fedora would win against slackware for desktop functions.
2. i think fedora would win against ubuntu for server functions.

1. i think fedora would lose against slackware for server functions.
2. i think fedora would lose against ubuntu for new users.


Maybe you should try suse. I kinda feel that it is in between fedora and ubuntu. Its more complete then ubuntu too.

Fedora is good, Ubuntu is good. But which one is better? Only one way to find out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np6gyUb0E7o

Sorry.

i think tons of updates is due to the system is not tested very well
in my idea it is like alpha release for debian or slackware
my idea so dont turn angry
but we can still see lot of people use it, then it has something that drive them to use it
but what is it? i dont know
I would prefer using centos instead of it but i was just thinking if f14 get something special than before

Your "ideas" just show that you don't understand the subject matter. As above, fedora is a bleeding edge development distro. It's fundamentally not supposed to work perfectly and they will provide new functionality in updates, not just bug and security fixes. It's there to push forward Linux development and make RedHat's mistakes for them. That much really isn't up for debate.

i said my idea and i am free to say what i want
second i am not saying fedora is good or bad i am saying there are much things i dont like in it
thats it
take it easy

First amendments or whatever the right number is say free speech and all that, but whilst I'm "free" to say that it was razor toothed ducks created the moon out of old car batteries and unicorn skin, but I'm clearly very very wrong. It is not an "opinion", it's just incorrect. You can't really have an opinion about how Fedoras development cycles are constructed, they are fact, not conjecture.

you can have opinions about facts. Brussel sprouts are vegetables and I don't like them. They wont change though. Its just not ment to be.

Slackware is anything but alpha though. Debian has 2 branches stable and unstable, maybe they made a third one too.

Personally i like all the new changes that show up in Fedora, I find centos and rhel and debian stable and even slackware to be boring and well stable and who wants that?