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New to linux myself... was running slack 9.1 ... then it was recommended to try out FC2.... currently running Fedora now with minimal trouble on the install... although, it does seem a bit slower than slack.... but being a noob... I am still hunting through threads to try and tweak it up a bit.... As for Beavis... well...... he sounds just like his user name.
Originally posted by orange400 Well I don't know about you guys, but I jsut installed FC2 like 5 minutes ago and so far, it's totally sweet!!
I'm perferring this to RH9 so far, and RH9 is my all time favorite OS ... well ... it was
Be a little more open guys, nothing but good can come out of the end of open-source!
FC2 definitely has some compatibility issues and bugs. But it is an overall nice package. I'm having a hellova time installing and getting WineX to work....
I'm not technical enough to get under the hood of an OS, but from my perspective FC2 is a definite improvement over FC1. My digital camera now works as soon as I plug it in; it didn't in FC1. And I can now swap floppies back and forth between my computer running FC2 and other people's computers running Windows; you couldn't with FC1.
Overall I think Mandrake is more polished, though. Fedora still has a way to go before it's user-friendly.
Originally posted by lopoetve Yes, but tis a poor carpenter who has tools made of paper, when they should be of iron.
There are serious flaws in FC2.
There are flaws in every distribution ever released. For a bleeding edge distro with a quick release cycle (which is what Fedora has been advertised as since day 1) Fedora is amazingly solid. None of the existing problems are un-fixable, as long as the user is willing to actually learn something instead of being spoon fed.
Beavis' intent is clear. He couldn't have written a more obvious troll. Having read his posts in several forums here at LQ, I can see a definite pattern.
Register on 8/17. First thread - "Linux for My Bunghole" - Can't install SUSE, can't install Fedora, ACPI, SATA, etc etc etc. Gets lots of advice, some inquiries, others noting problems with RAID setups and needing kernel 2.6 on install media, wanting to share results. Beavis doesn't seem interested and moves on.
8/18 Second thread - "SATA Hard Disk - Cannot install Linux" - SUSE worked fine, but I put in a SATA and SUSE quit working. Can't get Fedora to install either. Gets detailed and helpful response. Beavis' solution is to go try to install Mandrake because he wants to do some KDE hacking this summer...
8/18 Third thread - "Fedora is craptastic" - oh and I don't really want to put any effort into it. I just want to throw a temper tantrum.
There is no excuse, if you actually want to put forth some effort, for not making a real attempt to help yourself. I have seen some amazingly complex problems worked through on the forums here. Just to show how nice people are here, the first three or four responses were genuine attempts to help him - with no mention of his trollish ways. It is time to stop feeding this one.Beavis' post was nothing more than a drive by trolling. I mean, come on! He broke his SUSE install, he couldn't get a quick fix out of an attempted Fedora install, he posts an insulting thread in the Fedora forum, then he vanishes.
There are lots of stupid and lazy people in the world. There are also many intelligent, hardworking, totally computer illiterate people like my grandparents who will never learn much about computers. Should you have to be a mechanic in order to drive a car? I don't see any reason Linux needs to be harder to use than Windows. It is certainly possible to be both secure and user-friendly; it just takes a bit of effort.
Hey, my wife uses Linux with no problem, and she's no IT whiz kid. Linux is very user friendly, but it does take a bit of knowledge to get it running.
Once you factor in all the viruses, trojans, sypware and general instability of a Windoze system, Linux is actually more user friendly. My wife has never freaked out about the blue screen of death and lost data since we've been Linux-only.
But you're there to help your wife with all the little things that confuse her. You may not realize how much help you're providing, but it makes a huge difference. I didn't realize how much I'd been helping my parents until I moved away from home; they quickly became very confused. And that was with Windows.
Believe me, it's the small things that are most important. An accumulation of small problems is much more frustrating than one or two big problems, and they're more likely to be neglected by developers.
Linux will never become mainstream until developers take the time to smooth away all the rough edges. The things that are often neglected in the rush to get a release out (such as documenation and the usability of the GUI) are the things that cause people to go back to Windows.
When RH8 came out it had several ...irritaions... that were more of a pain than I was willing to tolerate (there's a lot of distros out there), then 9 came out and made those irritations worse. I don't want to get into details about what the problems were. They were not serious problems, just irritations.
So I went to Mandrake. I love Mandrake. However, when FC2 came out, I did what every good 'linux soldier' does and gave it a spin. I gotta say, FC2 put a little red hat back on my menu. I use gnome anyway and FC2's is stable, pretty, functional.
I've got FC2 running on my desktop and laptop, the servers are still mandrake. When FC3 finished cooling on the window sill, we'll see if mandrake stays on the servers.
One last point: These people that cry about 'linux sucks', is shit, etc. gives me the impression that the poster is 12 years old or just terminally stupid.
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