when i uninstall xmms.....

it also uninstall...

kde

............

you can try it yourself....

I think it's only the kde metapackage, not kde itself.

it uninstalled this one

the K Desktop Environment official modules
KDE (the K Desktop Environment) is a powerful Open Source graphical
desktop environment for Unix workstations. It combines ease of use,
contemporary functionality, and outstanding graphical design with the
technological superiority of the Unix operating system.

This metapackage includes all the official modules that are released with
KDE. In addition to the core KDE modules, this includes multimedia,
networking, personal information manager (PIM), graphics, education, games,
web development, system administration tools, and other artwork and
utilities. This package does not depend on development packages.

so it is not kde.....?

Well, it isn't KDE as in the entire deal, but it's a good junk. Why are you uninstalling XMMS if doing so causes these problems? It takes up like five megs of space.

b/c xmms dont support CJK language.....

i think it is OK to uninstall it when i no longer need it?

Well of course it's okay to uninstall it, I was just wondering why you would want to remove something so small.

Maybe you can just let apt-get have it's way, and reinstall the extra package it removed right after it's done? XMMS would be gone, and you would have your wrongfully removed package back.

...the funny thing is that what i search and add kde in Synaptic.....

Synaptic says it depends on XMMS.....lol

For real? I didn't know that. I guess you just have to leave it. Maybe XMMS isn't just a program, and the player you launch is just a side benifit of a bunch of behind the scenes sound stuff. I don't know, I always though XMMS was just a tiny Winamp clone.

Debian can sometimes be fussy about which packages depend on what.

This happens quite rarely and mistaken dependencies are usually fixed pretty quick (within a week or two). I think that if you are not sure, you should reinstall the removed packages. Or wait until the problem is fixed.

"Dependencies" aren't magically there, you know. It depends on the package maintainer who put them there by hand. Of course, the official packages are very reliable but occasionally you do get small mistakes like this creep into the repository.

Also if you are using "unstable" repositories at this moment, I suggest you revert to "testing".

xmms isnt dependent on kde and kde isnt on xmms, (with sarge anyway) so looks like a conflict. Yes, suggest you wait a few days. Downgrading from sid to etch could be quite a problem though, it would probably be easier to wait for the fix. Or file a bug. Try this, 'apt-cache depends xmms' then for kde and see what it says. If xmms isnt in there, then its a bug with something, or its removing a lib or something that it depends on. Check BTS though and see if there is something there. If you are using sid, it has been a bit screwy since sarges release with the new packages coming in.

I did that just the other day after spending 5 hours trying to get the 800 updates in sid to install. Almost half of the available updates had critical bugs. Testing still has almost 500 waiting, but at least 30 of them have critical bugs also. Gotta love apt-listbugs.

Yup, "kde" is in Debian a very large "meta-package" that installs LOTS of other packages as depends and Synaptic may even add a few extra packages on top of that, because by default Synaptic installs also the "recommended" dependencies. (You can configure Synaptic to install only the necessary depends if you so wish.)

The "kde" meta-package isn't in fact necessary at all. You can install the "kde-core" meta-package instead, and you'll still get a fully working KDE. After that you can use Synaptic to pick individually any additional KDE applications that you want. If you're adamant that you don't want xmms, then you should check what other packages depend on or recommend the xmms package. When I view the depends list for xmms in aptitude, I can see that at least "superkaramba" and "kicker-applets" (for the KDE panel) depend on xmms, so you cannot install those packages without also installing xmms.

Those very large meta-packages like "kde" are there for your convenience -- if you have lots of free disk space, you can install most of the packages you'll ever need in KDE with one simple command. But some users think that any extra packages are unwelcome "bloat" and for those users there's the "kde-core" package.

Can't you just uninstall the meta-package

I think that when you uninstall the meta-package, KDE will not be removed (just the meta-package, but not the actual program packages). I'm almost positive that I have done this once.

After you have uninstalled the meta-package you should be able to uninstall xmms.

O....so that i can still boot into KDE when i uninstall the so called "kde" pachage?



the pachage name kde is misleading.....i thought i unstalled the whole KDE thing.....

Yes, KDE will still work just as it should with it's meta package missing.