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Old 07-13-2005, 07:27 PM   #16
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well, did it again booted great lsmod is alot smaller

Quote:
debian:/home/nexus# lsmod
Module Size Used by
snd_mixer_oss 15584 0
ohci_hcd 18372 0
uhci_hcd 28048 0
intel_mch_agp 7632 1
agpgart 26728 1 intel_mch_agp
snd_intel8x0 28328 0
snd_ac97_codec 60292 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm 79208 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_timer 20324 1 snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 8488 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart 5632 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_rawmidi 19076 1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd 43684 7 snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi
ehci_hcd 25124 0
nls_cp437 5312 0
evdev 6752 0
psmouse 16584 0
ext3 100616 2
jbd 51704 1 ext3
mbcache 7108 1 ext3

but this time no sound or fat support, sant access my fat32 slave

back at it again.... i enable vfat to, i rechecked in "make menuconfig"
under filesystems --->
DOS/FAT/NT --->
<*> VFAT

i tried it from 2.6.8-11-686 source, dunno what happened



lspci still shows my sound card though..

Quote:
0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)

by the time i'm done this i'll have 30 kernel entries lol

i have 6 now

Last edited by byte.chaser; 07-13-2005 at 07:37 PM.
 
Old 07-13-2005, 08:12 PM   #17
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Well, I see the sound modules still loaded. And if you built in vfat, you should be able to access that partition. I would build in ext3 as well, by the way.
 
Old 07-14-2005, 12:18 PM   #18
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Code:
 <*> MSDOS fs support                                                      x x  
  x x                                   <*> VFAT (Windows-95) fs support                                          x x  
  x x                                   (437) Default codepage for FAT                                            x x  
  x x                                   (iso8859-1) Default iocharset for FAT                                     x x  
  x x                                   <*> NTFS file system support                                              x x   ---> i will need to access an ntfs drive later on, 
  x x                                   [ ]   NTFS debugging support                                              x x  
  x x                                   [ ]   NTFS write support

ya it is built in, still not able to access it? i didnt see anything under "misc filesystems"

Code:
< > Apple Extended HFS file system support                                             x x  
  x x                      < > Compressed ROM file system support                                                 x x  
  x x                      < > FreeVxFS file system support (VERITAS VxFS(TM) compatible)                         x x  
  x x                      < > OS/2 HPFS file system support                                                      x x  
  x x                      < > QNX4 file system support (read only)                                               x x  
  x x                      < > System V/Xenix/V7/Coherent file system support                                     x x  
  x x                      < > UFS file system support (read only)



tried again as far as sound goes
Code:
 Device Drivers  ---> 
    <*> Sound card support                                                       x x  
  x x                                    Advanced Linux Sound Architecture  --->                                  x x  
  
                          <*> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture                                     x x  
  x x                                   < > Sequencer support                                                     x x  
  x x                                   <*> OSS Mixer API                                                         x x  
  x x                                   <*> OSS PCM (digital audio) API                                           x x  
  x x                                   [ ] Verbose printk                                                        x x  
  x x                                   [ ] Debug                                                                 x x  
  x x                                       Generic devices  --->                                                 x x  
  x x                                       PCI devices  --->                                                     x x  
                    < > (Creative) Ensoniq AudioPCI 1371/1373                                                x x  
  x x                    < > ESS ES1938/1946/1969 (Solo-1)                                                        x x  
  x x                    < > ESS ES1968/1978 (Maestro-1/2/2E)                                                     x x  
  x x                    < > ESS Allegro/Maestro3                                                                 x x  
  x x                    < > ForteMedia FM801                                                                     x x  
  x x                    < > ICEnsemble ICE1712 (Envy24)                                                          x x  
  x x                    < > ICE/VT1724/1720 (Envy24HT/PT)                                                        x x  
  x x                    <*> Intel i8x0/MX440, SiS 7012; Ali 5455; NForce Audio; AMD768/8111                      x x  <------ maybe not forAC97?
  x x                    < > S3 SonicVibes                                                                        x x  
  x x                    < > VIA 82C686A/B, 8233 South Bridge                                                     x x  
  x x                    < > Digigram VX222
i know i'm missing something here i just for the life of me see it :/


when i try to access the drive now i get

Code:
debian:/home/nexus# mount /dev/hdb1 /media/win/  
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,
       missing codepage or other error
       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
       dmesg | tail  or so

so i dot what it says...



Code:
debian:/home/nexus#  dmesg | tail 
    speed:           100
    autonegotiation: yes
    duplex mode:     full
    flowctrl:        symmetric
    irq moderation:  disabled
    scatter-gather:  enabled
Unable to load NLS charset iso8859-1
FAT: IO charset iso8859-1 not found
Unable to load NLS charset iso8859-1
FAT: IO charset iso8859-1 not found
hmmm maybe i need to chage the charset for fat?
i left it as default

Code:
      (437) Default codepage for FAT                                            x x  
  x x                                   (iso8859-1) Default iocharset for FAT
sorry for the long post.... just a little stumped

i'm getting pretty fast at kernel compiles on the plus side

EDIT:

ok a whole lot a googling gave me some info
apparently its somethign to do with native language support
so i checked....

Code:
 --- Base native language support                                                           x x  
  x x                  (cp437) Default NLS Option                                                                 x x  
  x x                  < >   Codepage 437 (United States, Canada)        AHA!!  not loaded?                                         x x  
  x x                  < >   Codepage 737 (Greek)                                                                 x x  
  x x                  < >   Codepage 775 (Baltic Rim)                                                            x x  
  x x                  < >   Codepage 850 (Europe)                                                                x x  
  x x                  < >   Codepage 852 (Central/Eastern Europe)

Last edited by byte.chaser; 07-14-2005 at 12:44 PM.
 
Old 07-14-2005, 01:14 PM   #19
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Try adding that codepage 437 into your compile. Your sound card, though the title is different from mine, appears in exactly the same place. (I'm on a 2.6.12 kernel), so it should be working. Do you get any sound errors, or just not hear anything?
 
Old 07-14-2005, 01:49 PM   #20
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I think fat support will be working once i finish the compile. i enabled

Code:
x x                  < >   Codepage 437 (United States, Canada)
which i should have seen before :/

i checked the asus website and they call it ALC850, i thought it was i810 for some reason...
as for errors, xmms gives me

Code:
Please check that:
 your sound card is configured properly
ctrl+alt+f1 shows me an error on opening

Code:
nexus@debian:~$ xmms
libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
libvorbisfile.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Message: device: default

trying to just press play gives me...
Code:
** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such device
in menus config (i'm there now) under ALSA ---> pci device -->
Code:
  x x                    < > ALi PCI Audio M5451                                                                  x x  
  x x                    < > ATI IXP 150/200/250/300                                                              x x  
  x x                    < > Aureal Advantage                                                                     x x  
  x x                    < > Aureal Vortex                                                                        x x  
  x x                    < > Aureal Vortex 2                                                                      x x  
  x x                    < > Bt87x Audio Capture                                                                  x x  
  x x                    < > Cirrus Logic (Sound Fusion) CS4280/CS461x/CS462x/CS463x                              x x  
  x x                    < > Cirrus Logic (Sound Fusion) CS4281                                                   x x  
  x x                    < > EMU10K1 (SB Live! & Audigy, E-mu APS)                                                x x  
  x x                    < > Korg 1212 IO                                                                         x x  
  x x                    < > Digigram miXart          
  x x                    < > NeoMagic NM256AV/ZX                                                                  x x  
  x x                    < > RME Digi32, 32/8, 32 PRO                                                             x x  
  x x                    < > RME Digi96, 96/8, 96/8 PRO                                                           x x  
  x x                    < > RME Digi9652 (Hammerfall)                                                            x x  
  x x                    < > RME Hammerfall DSP Audio                                                             x x  
  x x                    < > Trident 4D-Wave DX/NX; SiS 7018                                                      x x  
  x x                    < > Yamaha YMF724/740/744/754                                                            x x  
  x x                    < > Avance Logic ALS4000                                                                 x x  
  x x                    < > C-Media 8738, 8338                                                                   x x  
  x x                    < > (Creative) Ensoniq AudioPCI 1370                                                     x x  
  x x                    < > (Creative) Ensoniq AudioPCI 1371/1373 < > ESS ES1938/1946/1969 (Solo-1)                                                        x x  
  x x                    < > ESS ES1968/1978 (Maestro-1/2/2E)                                                     x x  
  x x                    < > ESS Allegro/Maestro3                                                                 x x  
  x x                    < > ForteMedia FM801                                                                     x x  
  x x                    < > ICEnsemble ICE1712 (Envy24)                                                          x x  
  x x                    < > ICE/VT1724/1720 (Envy24HT/PT)                                                        x x  
  x x                    <*> Intel i8x0/MX440, SiS 7012; Ali 5455; NForce Audio; AMD768/8111                      x x  
  x x                    < > S3 SonicVibes                                                                        x x  
  x x                    < > VIA 82C686A/B, 8233 South Bridge                                                     x x  
  x x                    < > Digigram VX222
thats every option in there. The only one i have load is <*> Intel i8x0/MX440, SiS 7012; Ali 5455; NForce Audio; AMD768/8111
which worked in 26.8.-2 i dunno whats diggerent in 2.6.8-11
I did read the readme and readme.debian, neither mention any removal of sound devices.

i did check xmms's options/preferences to see what was listed. There are only 4 Audion !/O Plugins / input plugins
1) CD audio
2) MPEG Layer 1/2/3
3) Tone Generator
4) Wave Player



EDIT:

ummm i think i see something in menuconfig that was nt enabled...

Code:
 <*> OSS Mixer API
               < > OSS PCM (digital audio) API
i see OSS PCM under help is /dev/dsp
this wouldnt happen to be the issue would it??

Last edited by byte.chaser; 07-14-2005 at 01:57 PM.
 
Old 07-14-2005, 02:02 PM   #21
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I wouldn't worry about OSS (I don't use it at all), but you need to make sure the "Output Plugin" in XMMS's preferences is set to the ALSA output plugin.
 
Old 07-14-2005, 02:10 PM   #22
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ok i have changed that..
now i get

Code:
nexus@debian:~$ xmms
libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
libvorbisfile.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Message: device: default

** WARNING **: alsa_get_mixer(): Attaching to mixer hw:0 failed: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:560:(snd_determine_driver) could not open control for card 0
ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:955:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:3948:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2090:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default

** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Failed to open pcm device (default): No such file or directory
no mixer?

* should appear as : ( no space.. darn you emoticons!!!

Last edited by byte.chaser; 07-14-2005 at 02:15 PM.
 
Old 07-14-2005, 02:35 PM   #23
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Hrrm, really odd. All the modules for sound and alsa (if built as modules) are loaded?
Do you see anything sound-related in /dev? (i.e., snd*, sound*, dsp, mixer)
 
Old 07-14-2005, 03:18 PM   #24
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heres a list of sound related devices

Code:
nexus@debian:/dev$ ls | grep snd
sndstat
nexus@debian:/dev$ ls | grep sound
nexus@debian:/dev$ ls | grep dsp     
dsp
dsp1
dsp2
dsp3
nexus@debian:/dev$ ls | grep mixer
mixer
mixer1
mixer2
mixer3
nexus@debian:/dev$
 
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Do you have a /dev/snd directory?
 
Old 07-14-2005, 03:39 PM   #26
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no i dont ... hmmm

Code:
nexus@debian:/dev$ cd snd
-bash: cd: snd: No such file or directory
 
Old 07-14-2005, 03:47 PM   #27
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I may have asked this before, but couldn't find the answer at a glance in the thread. Are you using udev or devfs? If you aren't certain, just do 'ps -ef | grep dev'.
 
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Quote:
Originally posted by Matir
I may have asked this before, but couldn't find the answer at a glance in the thread. Are you using udev or devfs? If you aren't certain, just do 'ps -ef | grep dev'.
Code:
nexus@debian:~$ ps -ef | grep dev
nexus     2335  2234  0 14:59 pts/0    00:00:00 grep dev
 
Old 07-14-2005, 04:23 PM   #29
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Or old school dev nodes. *shudders*

Try taking a look at this article:
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/alsa.html

Especially make sure you have the module aliases and so forth properly configured.

Also, does 'dmesg | grep 8x0' show anything?
 
Old 07-14-2005, 04:38 PM   #30
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Code:
dmesg | grep 8x0
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49561 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 48000
i'll look at the link above thanks

btw: what does that command tell you?



EDIT:

found an interseting secontion in that article

Quote:
The discover1 pacakage tries to figure out what hardware you have and load the modules for them. Very nice. Except that it loads the OSS sound modules. To prevent it from doing this, add the line:
skip i810_audio

to the file /etc/discover.conf. Put the name of the OSS module for your sound card in place of i810_audio. (You can probably figure this out by perusing the output if lsmod.)
i dont know what module is to be loaded though...

lsmod gives me lots to choose from


Code:
nexus@debian:~$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_pcm_oss            49864  0 
snd_mixer_oss          17536  2 snd_pcm_oss
snd_intel8x0           31244  1 
snd_ac97_codec         66788  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm                86056  2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0
snd_timer              21252  1 snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc          9032  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
gameport                3552  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_mpu401_uart         6112  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_rawmidi            20132  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device          6440  1 snd_rawmidi
snd                    46532  9 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore               7488  2 snd

i'm starting to think i should stay with a stock kernel...





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