<<I've got the problem solved. thanks for the help, y'all>>
thanks in advance for any help y'all
so i installed debian on an old PC and used apt-get to install gnome. i'm still using "startx" to start it, but that's another issue.
next i installed icewm.
my question is- how do i tell startx that i want to use icewm instead of gnome? or do i still run gnome, and use icewm instead of metacity?
i'm eventually going to try xfce with rox on this box, if that helps.
thanks for any help!