Move from Fedora To Debian questions

tmick · 12-25-2009, 04:00 PM

Hi all,
I'm sure some of my questions have been asked before but I'm not finding the answers I need so......
Question 1
In Apt ot Aptitude is there a way to add a repository by a command?
Example if I'm using Yum in Fedora and I want a new repo I run

Code:

yum --enable repo <rerponame>

Is there anything like that?

Question 2
In yum if I want the debug packages I run

Code:

debuginfo -install <packagename>

Does any of the package managers have that option? If so how to do this?

Question 3
My Fedora 11 install has GNOME 2.26.3 and Evolution 2.26.3, The Debian install has 2.22.3 and the same version of Evolution.
If I use the Evolution back up will I be able to bring my mail into the older version of Evo without any problems? I ask this because I seem to remember evo switching to SQL Light for its Data Base Backend about version 2.24 and I don't know if that is backwards compatible. If that could be a problem how do I get the newer version of GNOME on the Debian install I tried

Code:

apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade

and I am still at 2.22.

Question 4
Fedora 11 uses FireFox 3.5.6, I'm guessing Iceweasel isn't that current and I've never used Epiphany until now. So the question is would I be able to move my bookmarks to either browser from Fedora and where are the relevant files stored? In other words is Iceweasel storing its bookmarks under the ./mozilla directory that sort of thing.

Thanks for the answers and Happy Holidays

mmmichael · 12-25-2009, 05:43 PM

You can add repos by editing /etc/apt/sources.list and just adding the repo to the end of the file.
While you have the file open, add the word "unstable" to the main repo lines. This should get you gnome and evolution 2.28.
(You still have to apt-get update afterwards.)
I believe iceweasel bookmarks are to be found in ~/.mozilla directory.

j1alu · 12-25-2009, 07:31 PM

there are two options (i would consider):
1)if your main interest is up to date packages use debian-testing mixed with debian-unstable the right way:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.p...12&hilit=mixed
atm there seem to be lots of trouble with an upgrade to testing (so i wouldnt just go for it, but check first. usually i just go for it).

iceweasel is in experimental in a high version.
add experimental to your /etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get -t experimental install iceweasel.
but there are also many ways to install firefox; icecat from gnu.org, etc.
i move my bookmars from the menu in iceweasel/epiphany. Bookmarks; organize, import and backup (in html). if moving from epiphany to iceweasel or vice versa they get kind of a mess.

2)or, if stability is more important:
stick with lenny, add the backports and be happy with a rock solid system.
(i think your current problems are not to be solved from backports, but didnt check).
for firefox/iceweasel its the same like above, but you cant/shouldnt install it form experimental. if you cant live with stable go for testing and/or unstable.

you will find some further links/infos about iceweasel/firefox here:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=47951

alioop · 12-26-2009, 10:16 AM

To add new repos via the CLI: (as root) nano /etc/apt/sources.list. Add the new repositories at the end of that file. If you want to take the easy way out, you can also add them using Synaptic. Of course add only the repos related to your Debian branch. Adding Backports is for the more learned of users. Not that it's all that difficult. But leave it for another day.

Rather than using the latest Debian Stable (Lenny) I would suggest the Testing branch (Squeeze). It's more up to date with its apps. For example, Open Office 3.0 and Iceweasel/Firefox 3.5.5 and Gnome 2.28.

dreamwalking · 12-26-2009, 11:03 AM

Question 1:
Maybe what you need is (sudo or as root):

Quote:

echo "deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free" >>/etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update

But I've always found more convenient to edit directly the /etc/apt/sources.list

Question 3:
Adding testing and unstable in /etc/apt/sources.list will get you newer versions of various software
I suggest you add:

Quote:

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

Question 4:
By simply copying the ~/.mozilla/firefox folder, I've found that I get back all my bookmarks and settings, even some of the addons. I assume it will work for you, as well.
If you only care about the bookmarks, you could simply copy your bookmarks.html into ~/.mozilla/firefox/<randomletters>.default/bookmarks.html

tmick · 12-27-2009, 01:13 PM

Okay I read the debian forums on the mixed repo and now sources.list looks like:

Code:

# 
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.3 _Lenny_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 20090906-12:06]/ lenny main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.3 _Lenny_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 20090906-12:06]/ lenny main

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free

deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny-proposed-updates contrib non-free main
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny-proposed-updates contrib non-free main
deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
#deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ lenny-backports main contrib non-free

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian/testing/updates main contrib 
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian/testing/updates main contrib
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/unstable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/unstable main contrib non-free

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main

If I try running apt-get update as root I get

Code:

Hit http://security.debian.org lenny/updates Release.gpg                       
Ign http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Translation-en_US            
Ign http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/contrib Translation-en_US         
Hit http://volatile.debian.org lenny/volatile Release.gpg                      
Ign http://volatile.debian.org lenny/volatile/main Translation-en_US           
Ign http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/non-free Translation-en_US        
Ign http://security.debian.org main Release.gpg                                
Ign http://security.debian.org main/contrib Translation-en_US                  
Hit http://security.debian.org lenny/updates Release                           
Ign http://security.debian.org main Release                                    
Ign http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex           
Ign http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/contrib Packages/DiffIndex        
Ign http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/non-free Packages/DiffIndex       
Ign http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Sources/DiffIndex            
Ign http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/contrib Sources/DiffIndex         
Ign http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/non-free Sources/DiffIndex        
Hit http://volatile.debian.org lenny/volatile Release                          
Ign http://security.debian.org main/contrib Packages                           
Ign http://security.debian.org main/contrib Sources                            
Hit http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Packages                     
Hit http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/contrib Packages                  
Hit http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/non-free Packages                 
Hit http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Sources                      
Hit http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/contrib Sources                   
Hit http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/non-free Sources                  
Ign http://security.debian.org main/contrib Packages                           
Ign http://volatile.debian.org lenny/volatile/main Packages/DiffIndex          
Ign http://security.debian.org main/contrib Sources                            
Err http://security.debian.org main/contrib Packages                           
  404 Not Found [IP: 149.20.20.6 80]
Err http://security.debian.org main/contrib Sources                            
  404 Not Found [IP: 149.20.20.6 80]
Ign http://volatile.debian.org lenny/volatile/main Sources/DiffIndex           
Hit http://volatile.debian.org lenny/volatile/main Packages                    
Hit http://volatile.debian.org lenny/volatile/main Sources                     
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny Release.gpg                                 
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/main Translation-en_US                      
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/contrib Translation-en_US                   
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/non-free Translation-en_US                  
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates Release.gpg                
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/contrib Translation-en_US  
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/non-free Translation-en_US 
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/main Translation-en_US     
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main Release.gpg                      
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Translation-en_US        
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Translation-en_US       
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main Release.gpg                      
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Translation-en_US        
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Translation-en_US       
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny Release                         
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates Release        
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main Release                                      
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main Release                                      
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Packages                             
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Packages          
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Sources            
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Sources           
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/main Packages/DiffIndex   
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/main Sources/DiffIndex    
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/contrib Sources/DiffIndex 
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/non-free Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/non-free Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/main Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Packages
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Packages
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Sources
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Sources
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Packages
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Packages
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Sources
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Sources
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/main Packages
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/contrib Packages
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/non-free Packages
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/main Sources
Get:1 http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing Release.gpg [198B]
Hit http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/main Translation-en_US
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/contrib Sources
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/non-free Sources
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/contrib Packages
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/non-free Packages
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/contrib Sources
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/non-free Sources
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Packages
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Packages
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Sources
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Sources
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Packages
  404 Not Found
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Packages
  404 Not Found
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Sources
  404 Not Found
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Sources
  404 Not Found
Hit http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing Release
Err http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing Release
  
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Packages
  404 Not Found
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Packages
  404 Not Found
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Sources
  404 Not Found
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Sources
  404 Not Found
Get:2 http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing Release [23.8kB]
Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing Release
Get:3 http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/main Packages/DiffIndex [2023B]
Fetched 26.0kB in 11s (2212B/s)
W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/debian/testing/updates/dists/main/contrib/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found [IP: 149.20.20.6 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/debian/testing/updates/dists/main/contrib/source/Sources  404 Not Found [IP: 149.20.20.6 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/testing/dists/main/contrib/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found

W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/testing/dists/main/non-free/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found

W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/testing/dists/main/contrib/source/Sources  404 Not Found

W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/testing/dists/main/non-free/source/Sources  404 Not Found

W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/unstable/dists/main/contrib/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found

W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/unstable/dists/main/non-free/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found

W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/unstable/dists/main/contrib/source/Sources  404 Not Found

W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/unstable/dists/main/non-free/source/Sources  404 Not Found

E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

ideas?
I went to http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ and there is a /dist folder do I need to add that to the lines in sources.list?

dreamwalking · 12-27-2009, 01:26 PM

For the debian-multimedia you have to manually download the key:

Quote:

wget http://www.debian-multimedia.org/poo....10.16_all.deb
dpkg -i debian-multimedia-keyring_2008.10.16_all.deb
apt-get update

In http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/, I see there is not "main", you have to substitute main for lenny, or drop .us altogether and edit it to http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/...etc
(edit: ) Forget this, main should automatically get you to lenny. Maybe just delete .us from these lines

And my security.debian.org line is different than yours:

Quote:

deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib

(edit again: )
You have two lines with security updates:

Quote:

deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free

and

Quote:

deb http://security.debian.org/debian/testing/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian/testing/updates main contrib

Just delete the second pair of lines, like that it reads
http://security.debian.org/debian/te...-i386/Packages

alioop · 12-27-2009, 03:48 PM

tmick, you've got too many repos in your sources list. It's a fault most folks new to Debian fall into. Even us oldster have done that. No need for so many. And for goodness sake, stay away from mixed repos or the odd ball ones like "volatile", "proposed" and "backports". At least for now. You're coming from Fedora aren't you? And you want to jump into the deep end??? No, no, no, young man. Slow down. Also you're mixing Stable (Lenny) with Testing (Squeeze) repos. Not a good thing to do.

Here's a good list to use. Get back to your source list file, delete what's there and paste it. It worked for me when I used Lenny.

deb http://ftp.utexas.edu/debian/ lenny main
deb-src http://ftp.utexas.edu/debian/ lenny main

deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main

#lenny main contrib non-free
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free

# debian multimedia
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main

If you're using Testing:

### Squeeze ###

deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main

#squeeze main contrib non-free
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free

# debian multimedia
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main

And bud, that's all you need.

As for the errors about keys: That's that long ass number you get like 07DC563D1F41B907. Here's what you do.

# If you get errors about missing keys, lookup the key in this file
# and run these commands (replace KEY with the key number):
# gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
# gpg --export --armor KEY | apt-key add -

Of course you'll have to do an apt-get update after you've listed the new repos.

Here's one other point. Where ever you get your repos' from or whatever Debian branch you use, change the wording from Stable or Testing to the code name. If perchance you're using Testing, when it goes Stable, later this year - maybe, you won't be Stable any longer. You'll be thrown into the 'new' Testing. Whatever that code name might be.

tmick · 12-27-2009, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alioop

You're coming from Fedora aren't you? And you want to jump into the deep end??? No, no, no, young man. Slow down. Also you're mixing Stable (Lenny) with Testing (Squeeze) repos. Not a good thing to do.

Yep coming from Fedora, not trying to jump into the deep end just get to where I can move files and back-ups with out mass amounts of grief... YOUNG MAN? LOL I'm 43 don't know your version of young, but.... in my book, not so much

But thanks for the compliment

Quote:

Originally Posted by alioop

As for the errors about keys: That's that long ass number you get like 07DC563D1F41B907. Here's what you do.

# If you get errors about missing keys, lookup the key in this file
# and run these commands (replace KEY with the key number):
# gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
# gpg --export --armor KEY | apt-key add -

Of course you'll have to do an apt-get update after you've listed the new repos.

Here's one other point. Where ever you get your repos' from or whatever Debian branch you use, change the wording from Stable or Testing to the code name. If perchance you're using Testing, when it goes Stable, later this year - maybe, you won't be Stable any longer. You'll be thrown into the 'new' Testing. Whatever that code name might be.

Okay not getting errors about missing keys just about no public key being available.

Code:

W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

So by "in this file" you mean /etc/apt/sources.list right?

alioop · 12-27-2009, 08:46 PM

tmick,

# Run these commands (replace KEY with the key number):
# gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
# gpg --export --armor KEY | apt-key add -

With the nano text editor, add the new repos at the end of the /etc/apt/sources.list. Open a terminal, log in as root,then # nano /etc/apt/sources.list . Save and close that file. Still in a terminal, do an apt-get update. This lets your system know it's got new repos. You'll get a long number concerning the public key when you update after adding new repos. Still in the terminal run these commands:

gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
You'll get confirmation it's received.

Then

gpg --export --armor xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | apt-key add -
you're system will tell you it's done. Sometimes you'll have to do it more than once.

It's been my experience that you can still install apps. But since there is no key, the source won't be verified. Won't prevent you from installing.

Sorry I called you a young man. Being 62 next month everyone is younger than me.

tmick · 12-27-2009, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alioop

tmick,

# Run these commands (replace KEY with the key number):
# gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
# gpg --export --armor KEY | apt-key add -

It's been my experience that you can still install apps. But since there is no key, the source won't be verified. Won't prevent you from installing.

Sorry I called you a young man. Being 62 next month everyone is younger than me.

I got the /etc/apt/sources.list edited correctly. The key error was after running apt-get update after the edit.
Where do I find the key numbers is what I meant to ask.

P.S. No worries about you calling me a young man I was kind of a nice change.

milomak · 12-28-2009, 06:43 AM

At the end of the error message it states NO_PUBKEY and gives you the key

dreamwalking · 12-28-2009, 06:49 AM

Why don't you try what I suggested above? (it's basically suggested on Debian Multimedia site).

Download the key from this link:
http://www.debian-multimedia.org/poo....10.16_all.deb

And then install it with a

Quote:

dpkg -i debian-multimedia-keyring_2008.10.16_all.deb

And then

Quote:

apt-get update

This should not give you any warnings at all.
In all cases, you can still apt-get to download and install packages, even if they are unverified.

alioop · 12-28-2009, 10:04 AM

tmick, when you do an apt-get upgrade the key comes with the error message. Such as ...

...The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907

See that long ass number at the end? That's the key. That error message is saying your system does not have that key. So you would do this:

gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 07DC563D1F41B907

You'll be informed when the key has been received.

Then:

gpg --export --armor 07DC563D1F41B907 | apt-key add -

Don't forget the dash at the end of the second command or the spaces in the first. All of that is important. Your commands will failed if every space and dash is not there.

Again you'll be informed when it's done. If all is successful, when you apt-get update, you should not receive that error message again. You will have to do that for every No PUBKEY error message you get. And of course as root. As been stated, you can still install apps. It just irritating to get that error message.

tmick · 12-28-2009, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamwalking

Why don't you try what I suggested above? (it's basically suggested on Debian Multimedia site).

Sorry I didn't post every thing I tried before that message. I did try the wget command and the dpkg commands still got that message. I then went to the media site and followed their directions for the keys and still got the error message. It didn't dawn on me the numbers on the end of the message were the key, and now that it is mentioned I did the Homer Simpson DOH!

Debian gives alot better information in their error output. In Fedora if that error occurred it wouldn't allow the repo to be used.
Thanks for everyone's replies and patience so far.