Hi friends,
i want to install Complete and full Debian Package.. (which contains all the options and packages) but i was really confused when i saw 21 .iso images for Debian_Etch_0r1 in the below link...
so what shall i do now ? if i want to install the Full Debian (with all packages present ?) do i need to download all the 21 .iso's ?? or where shall i get the complete Debian package iso ??

http://ftp.acc.umu.se/cdimage/releas...t/i386/iso-cd/

thanks...

You probably do not need all 21 isos. Many people use the netinstall disc. This installs the base system and then you have to install anything else you need using apt or aptitude.

thanks reddazz
ya.. i know about netinstall disc... but i want the complte iso...
so u mean to say all the 21 CD's are different and containing different packages..?. if i need all the complete full package means i need to have all the 21 CD's ??? uff then its better to have netinstall iso i think...
but is that true that complete Debian has 21 CD's ??? !!!!!!

i imagine the updates on such a system would bring the internet to a halt. As a matter of interest why is it that you wish to go this path?

It's physically impossible to install everything on all 21 cds. Those are there for folks who don't have a decent connection or don't want to do a netinstall.

All you need to do an install is either a mini cd iso or disk one if you prefer, you then use aptitude to install what else you want.

ha ha.. just i was thinking can i installl the COMPLETE and FULL Debian on my PC....
right now...i installed the first CD.. i am able to boot and i am getting the Debian Desktop.. but say if i want to install the 2nd CD from the list (after installing the first).. how to do this ???
if it is not a good thing what i am doing(what i am doing may seem silly.. ) then after installing the first CD if i want to have Complete GNOME and X-Window managers... then what are all the packages i need ?
i need to chose among those iso's or how shall i do this...
thanks...

AFAIK, about hal of those CD iso images are source images (which means hal are not ), but I believe that there is a our DVD set available as well.
That's a ton of stuff though- many different language packs, many rather arcane (to the folks who don't need them) applications.

I really would do a net install, then fire up Synaptic and add whatever desktop/window manager you want. Otherwise, as soon as you installed all 21 iso's (or 10) worth of applications, you would immediately have to update nearly all of them, which might take some time .

thanks bryantrv..
probably i left the idea of installing all those CD's it dos'nt make sense i think....
now can u please tell me how to install the complete (FULL with all packages present) GNOME environment in Debian... ? right now after installing the first CD i have some 70 % of all the GNOME packages present.. but how can i get complete.. do i need to browse in net for the individual and install the same or can i get a ready complete (FULL) GNOME package ???

Open a term, su to root, aptitude install foo.

Although I have to admit what the fascination is with a "FULL" install is. And once again I don't think that is even possible as I suspect some packages will no doubt conflict.

One thing is- there really isn't a "full" installation. It would be the same as saying a "full" installation of Windows would include every application written for Windows.
There's Debian, then there's Gnome, KDE, Fluxbox, et.al., then there are the applications- many of which have a very specific target audience (they are invaluable to some people, but worthless to most).

Now I need to get my F key fixed .

sorry friends i am not telling my problem correctly i think... let me try to explain...

http://packages.debian.org/etch/gnome/

i saw the list of PACKAGES in the complete full GNOME installation in debian website above it is listing more than 100(everyone might not need all the packages.. but what that list exactly means. ??. is it like "if all these listed packages are installed then it is as good saying that GNOME is completely installed" ??? even i am confused ehre...)... but just for cross checking i compared a package named at-spi which is listed in the website with the GNOME installed in my PC there this at-spi package was not listed in the synaptic package manager. and later i downlaoded this at-spi and when i tried to install this it tells that dependency failed while installating at-spi..
so my doubt is a complete correct list of packages for GNOME ??
sorry if i have understood something in a wrong way and if i am telling some silly things....
thanks..

Debian provides a kitchen sink but with a few choices to get it.

You're already installed but you can still use aptitude from its GUI and get the tasks to install. That's sort of the full-blown assortment of things. Next down are the gnome and kde meta-packages, and below that is the kde-base and gnome-core packages. You just decide how you want to go about it. First thing is to add contrib and non-free to the ends of your sources in /etc/apt/sources.list using nano if you don't have a desktop environment yet, or gedit if you have Gnome:

gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

or kate if you have KDE:

kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list

Make sure you have the distro you want to pull from in those lines and that the security repo also points to your desired distro (stable, testing, or unstable).

su -

aptitude update

aptitude

If you pick from the tasks in Aptitude, choose desktop and gnome-desktop to get all the goodies including xorg and gdm (your video drivers and login manager). If you want both Gnome and KDE choose the desktop, gnome-desktop, and kde-desktop tasks. You'll be asked which display manager should be the default and choose gdm if you're going to use Gnome most of the time or choose kdm if you're going to use KDE most of the time.

The mesa-utils package should be installed as well as that doesn't get installed by the tasks but includes the glxinfo and glxgears things to test out your video with.

After that it's just a matter of adding software you like, and it's recommended that you use aptitude from either the command line (better) or from its GUI. Aptitude comes with an excellent HTML manual so read that and you'll know all you need how to use Aptitude. Gotta get a desktop installed first so that's why I told you what I did.

This is not how experienced users generally install their desktops but for a newbie I like it because it's one step and you get whole default installations of Gnome or KDE along with essential tools, such as drivers for your video, sound, printers, etc. Less guess work or guide reading. The tasks install what you need to get going. Then you can start reading with a desktop to use.

I'm not going to try- but I was wondering if apt-get accepts wild cards- if you did an apt-get install * , would it install |everything|?

Don't know, but if it does your system would be instantly unusable.

Why are you still thinking that you desire "everything?" I assure you there is not one computer in the entire world that has "everything" installed from any Linux distribution. Nobody wants that, and it actually is impossible.

Just do some reading of the Startup Installation manuals and some forum reading over at forums.debian.net and install Debian the way you choose. Although I enjoy a pretty much loaded system there is no way you are going to install "everything." I told you ways to get some pre-chosen desktop tasks installed. When you read the how-to's at the forum you'll see that most suggest only a base install at first then adding what you want. Different strokes for different folks, but calm down with that everything stuff. It's not going to happen, no matter the distro you choose.

You can't install everything! As a quick example, there are several frontends to the iptables firewall, if you managed to install them all, they would all try to add firewall rules and your firewall would thus be borked, broken, trashed, maybe even not working. Guess why it isn't a recommended thing to do.