Debian 6 Ideas

khodeir · 02-10-2011, 03:01 AM

hi all,

I know it is early to write this topic but i am very curious to know.

what do u feel now on ur Debian 6?
did any body tried debian 6 BSD kernel?

i use now ubuntu but i want to try Debian but due to internet connection problem , i will wait for it so i want to know other ideas

hope to see ur replies and ideas.

odinlzs · 02-10-2011, 03:32 AM

OI! Debian like Debian,nothing special.
I downloaded the kfreeBSD and installed it on my laptop (compaq 615 amd X2).
So you have BSD with Debian installer,Debian desktop.
In work it feels Debian.It`s good but the only thing thad didn`t work for me was sound.I colud`t get sound to work!
But every thing else worked just fine.

qrange · 02-10-2011, 10:00 AM

one of things I noticed is that krusader cannot unmount usb flash drive..
that 'feature' has been in Debian testing for months, good to see stable is catching up :P

khodeir · 02-13-2011, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qrange

one of things I noticed is that krusader cannot unmount usb flash drive..
that 'feature' has been in Debian testing for months, good to see stable is catching up :P

what i know that debian is dead testing!!!!
very strange to find it cannont umount

darkduck · 02-13-2011, 11:01 AM

I am new in Debian. Could not run Live with pervious (5) version...
Kind of like it yet.
Surprised it we released with so old kernel....

jlinkels · 02-13-2011, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qrange

one of things I noticed is that krusader cannot unmount usb flash drive..
that 'feature' has been in Debian testing for months, good to see stable is catching up :P

Are you sure this is a Krusader problem? If I am not mistaken, if the device is in use, Krusader doesn't unmount it, and remains silent. Can you unmount it as user in a terminal?
I am not behind a Squeeze machine now, but will try to reproduce later.

jlinkels

qrange · 02-13-2011, 02:43 PM

@jlinkels

yes, I'm sure its in Krusader. it complains something about 'hal'. only way it would "unmount" is to use saferemoval from icon on gnome desktop.
mind you, it hasn't been always like that. couple months ago some update introduced 'safe removal' concept to linux and broke unmount.

jlinkels · 02-13-2011, 05:04 PM

Weird.

I have this entry in /etc/fstab:

Code:

/dev/sdb1       /mnt/memstick   vfat    rw,user,noauto,gid=users,fmask=002     0       0

I mounted the USB drive as ordinary user on the command line. Unmount in Krusader was no problem. I have Krusader
Version 2.2.0-beta1 "DeKade"
Using KDE Development Platform 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5)

jlinkels

qrange · 02-14-2011, 01:20 AM

I don't have fstab entry for usb. It automounts in /media
Installer didn't make any.

Have to admit there are some very nice things about Debian. One of our servers is down so I started damnsmalllinux on Pentium3 with 128Mb memory. (not enough ram for puppy). We needed to run some specialized software on it. It was compiled in Debian and run there with no problems. But I was surprised when binary elfs just worked after copying from Debian to DSL. There was no need to recompile or anything. (even though DSL uses different kernel, iirc).
Also other binaries like rdate work simply by copying.

jens · 02-14-2011, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinlzs

I downloaded the kfreeBSD and installed it on my laptop (compaq 615 amd X2).
So you have BSD with Debian installer,Debian desktop.
In work it feels Debian.It`s good but the only thing thad didn`t work for me was sound.I colud`t get sound to work!
But every thing else worked just fine.

Did you try loading your sound driver with kldload?
Use aumix to change the volume (if needed).

They both(GNU/Linux & GNU/kFreeBSD) work very well for me.

qrange · 03-03-2011, 01:36 AM

another nice thing about Debian 6 is new 'sexy' font in terminal

cynwulf · 03-03-2011, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkduck

Surprised it we released with so old kernel....

It's a stable release - stop spreading fud and learn the facts. There is nothing to stop you getting the latest 2.6.37 from unstable or just downloading and building your own kernel if that's what you want.

darkduck · 03-03-2011, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caravel

It's a stable release.

Should stable release give me a "kernel failure" while making simple operation like copying files from network drive to USB flash?

Quote:

Kernel failure message 1:
BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at f7403d03
IP: [<f83d2027>] CIFSSMBQAllEAs+0x235/0x2d7 [cifs]
*pde = 00000000
Oops: 0000 [#4] SMP
last sysfs file: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-4/1-4:1.0/host6/target6:0:0/6:0:0:0/block/sdb/sdb1/uevent
Modules linked in: nls_cp437 vfat fat usb_storage nls_utf8 cifs cpufreq_conservative cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_stats cpufreq_userspace parport_pc ppdev lp parport sco bridge stp bnep l2cap crc16 bluetooth binfmt_misc uinput fuse loop snd_hda_codec_conexant arc4 snd_hda_intel joydev ecb snd_hda_codec i915 drm_kms_helper snd_hwdep b43 drm snd_pcm mac80211 snd_seq snd_timer snd_seq_device i2c_algo_bit i2c_i801 snd psmouse wmi video soundcore rng_core serio_raw output evdev cfg80211 i2c_core battery processor button ac snd_page_alloc pcspkr rfkill led_class ext3 jbd mbcache sg sr_mod cdrom sd_mod crc_t10dif ata_generic ssb uhci_hcd 8139too mmc_core thermal 8139cp ata_piix ehci_hcd ahci pcmcia mii thermal_sys usbcore nls_base libata scsi_mod pcmcia_core [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan]

Pid: 2448, comm: nautilus Tainted: G D (2.6.32-5-686 #1) Presario C300 (RM500EA#ABU)
EIP: 0060:[<f83d2027>] EFLAGS: 00210286 CPU: 0
EIP is at CIFSSMBQAllEAs+0x235/0x2d7 [cifs]
EAX: f7403d06 EBX: f7403d02 ECX: 0000ed00 EDX: 00000000
ESI: ef99003d EDI: 00000000 EBP: 00e074e5 ESP: ef963f0c
DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 00e0 SS: 0068
Process nautilus (pid: 2448, ti=ef962000 task=efabb300 task.ti=ef962000)
Stack:
efaa7600 f6102e00 00007911 f7403d06 2fc4829b 0000004f ef990000 ef990000
<0> ffffffa1 efaa7600 f6011040 00007911 f83e7d8c 00000000 00000000 f7e2608c
<0> 00000000 00000000 00000000 f6102e00 eb925770 00000000 f83e7cb4 ebb841c8
Call Trace:
[<f83e7d8c>] ? cifs_listxattr+0xd8/0x119 [cifs]
[<f83e7cb4>] ? cifs_listxattr+0x0/0x119 [cifs]
[<c10c7303>] ? vfs_listxattr+0x32/0x5a
[<c10c736f>] ? listxattr+0x44/0x88
[<c10c7421>] ? sys_llistxattr+0x30/0x40
[<c10030fb>] ? sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x28
Code: f8 01 0f 84 a9 00 00 00 68 c6 17 3f f8 e8 2e a2 e9 c8 59 e9 99 00 00 00 83 eb 04 89 5c 24 10 8d 5e 04 89 d8 83 c0 04 89 44 24 0c <0f> b6 43 01 8d 6c 05 06 3b 6c 24 38 7d 36 a1 80 19 3f f8 8d 57
EIP: [<f83d2027>] CIFSSMBQAllEAs+0x235/0x2d7 [cifs] SS:ESP 0068:ef963f0c
CR2: 00000000f7403d03
---[ end trace 557f7dc4c02e16cd ]---

Kernel failure message 2:
BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at f7403d03
IP: [<f83d2027>] CIFSSMBQAllEAs+0x235/0x2d7 [cifs]
*pde = 00000000
Oops: 0000 [#3] SMP
last sysfs file: /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/device:12/ACPI0003:00/power_supply/ACAD/online
Modules linked in: nls_cp437 vfat fat usb_storage nls_utf8 cifs cpufreq_conservative cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_stats cpufreq_userspace parport_pc ppdev lp parport sco bridge stp bnep l2cap crc16 bluetooth binfmt_misc uinput fuse loop snd_hda_codec_conexant arc4 snd_hda_intel joydev ecb snd_hda_codec i915 drm_kms_helper snd_hwdep b43 drm snd_pcm mac80211 snd_seq snd_timer snd_seq_device i2c_algo_bit i2c_i801 snd psmouse wmi video soundcore rng_core serio_raw output evdev cfg80211 i2c_core battery processor button ac snd_page_alloc pcspkr rfkill led_class ext3 jbd mbcache sg sr_mod cdrom sd_mod crc_t10dif ata_generic ssb uhci_hcd 8139too mmc_core thermal 8139cp ata_piix ehci_hcd ahci pcmcia mii thermal_sys usbcore nls_base libata scsi_mod pcmcia_core [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan]

Pid: 2415, comm: nautilus Tainted: G D (2.6.32-5-686 #1) Presario C300 (RM500EA#ABU)
EIP: 0060:[<f83d2027>] EFLAGS: 00210286 CPU: 0
EIP is at CIFSSMBQAllEAs+0x235/0x2d7 [cifs]
EAX: f7403d06 EBX: f7403d02 ECX: 0000ed00 EDX: 00000000
ESI: ef96803d EDI: 00000000 EBP: 00ee3231 ESP: ef903f0c
DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 00e0 SS: 0068
Process nautilus (pid: 2415, ti=ef902000 task=efab8880 task.ti=ef902000)
Stack:
ef07f240 f6102e00 0000781d f7403d06 2fc2029b 0000004f ef968000 ef968000
<0> ffffffa1 ef07f240 f6011040 0000781d f83e7d8c 00000000 00000000 f7e2608c
<0> 00000000 00000000 00000000 f6102e00 eb925770 00000000 f83e7cb4 ebb841c8
Call Trace:
[<f83e7d8c>] ? cifs_listxattr+0xd8/0x119 [cifs]
[<f83e7cb4>] ? cifs_listxattr+0x0/0x119 [cifs]
[<c10c7303>] ? vfs_listxattr+0x32/0x5a
[<c10c736f>] ? listxattr+0x44/0x88
[<c10c7421>] ? sys_llistxattr+0x30/0x40
[<c10030fb>] ? sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x28
Code: f8 01 0f 84 a9 00 00 00 68 c6 17 3f f8 e8 2e a2 e9 c8 59 e9 99 00 00 00 83 eb 04 89 5c 24 10 8d 5e 04 89 d8 83 c0 04 89 44 24 0c <0f> b6 43 01 8d 6c 05 06 3b 6c 24 38 7d 36 a1 80 19 3f f8 8d 57
EIP: [<f83d2027>] CIFSSMBQAllEAs+0x235/0x2d7 [cifs] SS:ESP 0068:ef903f0c
CR2: 00000000f7403d03
---[ end trace 557f7dc4c02e16cc ]---

jens · 03-03-2011, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkduck

Should stable release give me a "kernel failure" while making simple operation like copying files from network drive to USB flash?

Do you expect people to use their supernatural powers to guess what you were using and what you did wrong?

k3lt01 · 03-03-2011, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkduck

I am new in Debian. Could not run Live with pervious (5) version...
Kind of like it yet.
Surprised it we released with so old kernel....

Not trying to be rude but my guess is you are relatively new to Linux altogether. Debian 6 (Squeeze) is similar in specification to Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx). The big difference between Debian 6 and Ubuntu 10.04 is that Ubuntu 10.04 come out with a mountain load of bugs and left alot of people wondering was it fixable before the next release.

If you want a newer kernel go to liquorix and install the latest 2.6.37 variety.

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkduck

Should stable release give me a "kernel failure" while making simple operation like copying files from network drive to USB flash?

Try separating the issues a little bit. Ubuntu suffers from kernel failures as well infact all Linux distributions can suffer from them. It is, unfortunately, a part of Linux life but I'll bet my bottom dollar that Debian when set up correctly, and used correctly, wont suffer with them as much as a bling bling distro does.