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Old 07-06-2005, 06:30 AM   #1
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Book advise


Hi everyone I have to learn Linux because I'll have to set up a file server using Debian and Samba. I'm looking for a book and found "Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 Bible ". I was wondering if this book would be good for me, or if anyone can advise me another book? TIA
 
Old 07-06-2005, 07:25 AM   #2
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Don't!

Everything you need to setup that server will be quicker and easier found online (here, in numerous other forums, and with Google).

Keep your money, or donate it to a project

hamish
 
Old 07-06-2005, 10:59 AM   #3
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Quote:
Originally posted by hamish
Don't!

Everything you need to setup that server will be quicker and easier found online (here, in numerous other forums, and with Google).

Keep your money, or donate it to a project

hamish
Frugality, frugality, frugality, I can appreciate it (great-great-grandfather William came from somewhere near Edinburgh).

Sometimes you just need hardcopy, then you must either obtain a book or print something from the 'net. It is usually cheaper to buy than print, unless someone else is paying for the printer & its supplies. Or better yet, have the best of both worlds: $0 and hard copy. Become a book reviewer. Also, buy used or 1 edition back; in many cases this is very cost effective.

So, assuming you just have to have something in book form ...

If I were to recommend just _one_ book to a command line oriented beginner, it would Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly). One way to save $ is to buy an older edition 2nd hand. I have 3 copies: 2nd, 3rd, & 4th eds. All are very useful, perhaps the used 3rd is the best value -- there was a significant improvement in organization between 2 & 3. (All command references are now grouped in 1 alphabetical chapter.)

The Linux Cookbook (No Starch Press) is really good, too. Either edition, although the 2nd is almost 2ce as long as the 1st. (I got #1 used, & #2 was a birthday present...)

Avoid Learning Debian GNU/Linux (O'Reilly), it's out of date, out of print, & was more about GNU/Linux than Debian anyway.

Since you are going to "set up a file server using Debian and Samba", consider Linux Network Administrators Guide, the 1st 2 editions available either as O'Reilly books or on the web:
http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_network/ http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linag2/book/
Unfortunately, the 3rd ed., published this year, is not (yet) available.

The Official Samba-3 HOWTO and Reference Guide, published by Prentice Hall PTR, and also available on the web:
http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/man/...TO-Collection/
http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/Samb...Collection.pdf
also, Samba-3 by Example: Practical Exercises to Successful Deployment, again published by Prentice Hall PTR, and also available on the web:
http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-Guide/ http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/Samba-Guide.pdf
Note -- the printed versions have recently diverged from the on-line versions.
The 2 Samba books are quite deep, & expensive @ retail, so it is good that you use them on-line or d/l the .pdf before you have to commit to purchase.

If you decide to buy either of the Samba books, you may well be supporting the project through royalties paid to Terpstra, Vernooij, & Carter who are members of the Samba team.

I googled:
"Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 Bible" review
& got some interesting results. The book looks promising, why not ask for review copy? I think I will. Then post a review on this site.

This is much longer than I intended, but I hope helpful. Thanks for turning me on to Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 Bible, it looks very promosing, but it isn't released yet & I have no personal experience w/ the publisher.
 
Old 07-06-2005, 12:12 PM   #4
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Thanks, I didn't expect such a detailed answer. Very much appreciated
 
Old 07-06-2005, 12:25 PM   #5
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Well, I got on a roll & couldn't stop. Happy you found it helpful.
Let me know about the Wiley "Bible" book if you get a copy.
 
Old 07-06-2005, 04:21 PM   #6
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Further to archtoad6's post, I would have to agree that a good book still certainly has it's place

Running Linux by Welsh, Dalheimer, Dawson and Kaufman (O'Reilly) is worth getting, even if it is a bit out of date, and not restricted to just Debian. Most of the principles in it still hold though.

The Rute User's Guide is also useful, and available from http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book both in dead tree and electronic form.

Also, if the dollars (euro's) are burning holes your pockets, then you could also look at the new Debian System recently published here http://debiansystem.info.

Cheers,

mj
 
Old 07-08-2005, 12:11 AM   #7
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Hmmmm. While I HATE to say this, Debian books suck..........(big time). I can't believe a distro this good has the worse dang docs of anything in it's class. And I mean THE WORSE!

Check it out. Search the web. Do Amazon. Do ANYTHING. I ordered the "official" distro to support the cause, but I'm really upset. I've got 10 distros on my desk right now, and any of them have better docs. Either for sale, or online. I can't believe it, either.

I know, I know, "if I dont' like it, use something else."

That's M$'s point of view isn't it? Well.............ISN'T IT?? It really bugs me.......with all the other distros having great books online, great tips, and stuff. Even the new ones..............What the heck is going on?? All they do is re-create old man pages, work on the "official" book thing, and drop links to somewheres else when you need to find out something. It outta be a crime

JR
 
Old 07-08-2005, 12:23 AM   #8
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What are you talking about the "official" Debian documentation is GREAT.
 
  


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