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Old 11-26-2005, 06:02 PM   #1
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Few questions


Hello..

I have an old pentium1 100mhz, 1gig hd, 16mb ram and i have tried an older version of dsl live cd and there my mouse did not work, serial mouse (two screws thing) will the mouse work with dsl 2.0?

and...

I have win98 installed, can i make it dual bootable? do i have to do something? do i have to remove windows? i have had dual bootable winxp/mandrake on my better computer using partition magic 8 but it doesent work for the old computer, need better cpu and more memory it says on their homepage.

Thanks!
 
Old 11-26-2005, 08:06 PM   #2
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Do a base install with Debian (stable), don't select any extra packages to install. It will install a boot loader (GRUB) so you can dual boot. Boot into the new OS. Once your back at the command line in Debian install a lightweight window manager like Fluxbox and most of the dependencies sould be resolved for you and you'll have a functioning X window system on the PC.
 
Old 11-27-2005, 10:04 AM   #3
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Hello

I have made a boot disc and it wont work on my old pc it says something like:
Bad EIP value
<0>Kernel panic: attempted to kill init!

Someone knows whats wrong? It works on my other computer.

Thanks
 
Old 11-27-2005, 12:31 PM   #4
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Now i managed to get past that EIP thing with a setting in bios.. however another problem happens:
Cant find KNOPPIX filesystem.
Dropping you to a (very limited) shell.

Why does this happen?? I have the bootfloppy.img on the diskette written there with rawwrite, is this the wrong thing? It doesent seem it searches the cd-rom, maybe thats why it cant load?

Thanks.
 
Old 11-27-2005, 01:21 PM   #5
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You may have a bad CD image or the CD ROM is having trouble reading it.

From http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Cheat_Codes

At the boot prompt enter testcd

testcd
Check CD data integrity, If your KNOPPIX CD makes strange noises during boot, or you see frequent errors like "cloop read error", or programs on your KDE desktop keep crashing randomly, then your CD image is probably defective or incomplete, or your CD-burner created a defective CD due to wrong writing speed or bad media. This is the most common error reported. Please boot with "knoppix testcd" to check if the CD is OK, and/or even better, verify the MD5 checksums that are present on the mirrors before writing the CD. Also, please read the KNOPPIX-FAQ.

CAUTION: testcd can take a long time and the screen saver often starts while the testcd check is running. Hit SHIFT or CTRL to turn off the screen saver and continue, there is likely no need to reset the system or burn another CD at this point.
 
Old 11-27-2005, 01:47 PM   #6
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Originally posted by mmaki
You may have a bad CD image or the CD ROM is having trouble reading it.

From http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Cheat_Codes

At the boot prompt enter testcd

testcd
Check CD data integrity, If your KNOPPIX CD makes strange noises during boot, or you see frequent errors like "cloop read error", or programs on your KDE desktop keep crashing randomly, then your CD image is probably defective or incomplete, or your CD-burner created a defective CD due to wrong writing speed or bad media. This is the most common error reported. Please boot with "knoppix testcd" to check if the CD is OK, and/or even better, verify the MD5 checksums that are present on the mirrors before writing the CD. Also, please read the KNOPPIX-FAQ.

CAUTION: testcd can take a long time and the screen saver often starts while the testcd check is running. Hit SHIFT or CTRL to turn off the screen saver and continue, there is likely no need to reset the system or burn another CD at this point.
Thanks for your reply, noting wrong with the cd, it runs perfect on my other pc..
I think i know the problem, in bios i have to change to IDE "Secondary" instead of "Both" (dont work with "Both" , get the EID thing.) to get it to read the cd-rom and starts booting, BUT! then it cant read my harddrive! Frustrating... so: Using "BOTH" dont work, but i need to use "BOTH" for it to be able to use both the harddrive and cd-rom. so of course i tried to put the cd-rom and harddrive on the same IDE-cable, did not work, couldnt find the harddrive, i tried this with both IDEcables in the pc.
Do you know what to do next? Do i have to change something on the cd-rom? On the back of it theres a thing you can move s0 & s1, is this the master & slave thing?

Thanks
 
Old 11-27-2005, 02:25 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by HoldItIn
Thanks for your reply, noting wrong with the cd, it runs perfect on my other pc..
I think i know the problem, in bios i have to change to IDE "Secondary" instead of "Both" (dont work with "Both" , get the EID thing.) to get it to read the cd-rom and starts booting, BUT! then it cant read my harddrive! Frustrating... so: Using "BOTH" dont work, but i need to use "BOTH" for it to be able to use both the harddrive and cd-rom. so of course i tried to put the cd-rom and harddrive on the same IDE-cable, did not work, couldnt find the harddrive, i tried this with both IDEcables in the pc.
Do you know what to do next? Do i have to change something on the cd-rom? On the back of it theres a thing you can move s0 & s1, is this the master & slave thing?

Thanks
My advice to you is this: Configure the hardware so Windows can recognize it and then work from there.

Let's say you are working with Linux and it's a total unknown to you. Now you are talking about moving devices to different cables, moving jumpers around.....and you don't sound like a hardware expert, either.

You just have way too much going on!

Yesterday I couldn't get Linux to work on a computer, it was giving me all these weird error messages that I couldn't understand. So, I tried to install Windows 2000 on the machine because I know Windows. It gave me messages that were confusing but at least they were in English and were real sentences.

Go with what you know - make the hardware work so Windows will see it and then Linux should recognize it as well. Sometimes when Linux does not recognize hardware there are options you can use but I don't know much about those.



Phil
 
Old 11-27-2005, 02:37 PM   #8
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Originally posted by pbpersson
My advice to you is this: Configure the hardware so Windows can recognize it and then work from there.

Let's say you are working with Linux and it's a total unknown to you. Now you are talking about moving devices to different cables, moving jumpers around.....and you don't sound like a hardware expert, either.

You just have way too much going on!

Yesterday I couldn't get Linux to work on a computer, it was giving me all these weird error messages that I couldn't understand. So, I tried to install Windows 2000 on the machine because I know Windows. It gave me messages that were confusing but at least they were in English and were real sentences.

Go with what you know - make the hardware work so Windows will see it and then Linux should recognize it as well. Sometimes when Linux does not recognize hardware there are options you can use but I don't know much about those.



Phil
Hey
No im not an expert at all, i know something though..

First of all.. i do have windows 98 already installed on it and it works great!
Second, i got it all working on 1 ide cable.
Problem now is when the loading "dos-style" is over it shows a bluescreen (not a windows "bluscreen") with no text in it and the cd-rom reads and reads but nothing happens, it seems to be activity in the harddrive also, but it doesent sound as it is working, i have waited over 10 minutes bit nothing happens.
Any ideas?
 
Old 11-28-2005, 06:31 PM   #9
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I would recommend that you update your bios. But before you do you should also back up your data on the Hard drive just in case something goes wrong.

With any luck the bios update will allow you to boot from the Cd-rom and see the hard drive.
 
  


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