Just one question. I'm new to ubuntu or actually kubuntu, because like a lot of people, I just got used to KDE (my first distro was SuSE and they did a nice job with KDE)
I like KDE apps, but wanna try ubuntu with Gnome, so my question is: I can run them if I install kde libraries or something? Even if I can't - I'll still try it.


thx,
svinka

I ran kde and gnome together a few times, and some package messes up the kmenu, and the kde desktop, so I don't reccomend it.

in ubuntu, I'm sure you could install kdelibs for things like apollon, and other apps that need it, and all other kde applications, but trying to run a kde desktop with gnome won't work correctly unless you uninstall gnome.

I used to use kde, it was in my first distro I ever used (redhat 9) now I have gentoo stage1, and I love gnome, gnome has really improved, so definitely try it.

Feel stupid haven't downloaded it already! Anyway, I really do hope Gnome is better with X than KDE, cuz that thing is annoying me. I mean, a lot of things just don't start Maybe it's not KDE, but still, I'll just try it and see.

thx,
svinka

svinka, start another thread in the correct area about your KDE problems and I'm sure we can get your issues resolved. I use Suse 9.3 for everything (desktop and servers) at work and am suprised to hear about your KDE issues. I have the occasional Konqueror problem but everything else is solid. I like Kubuntu, but IMHO, Suse KDE is a little more reliable for whatever reason.

If you find you like GNOME well then thats fine too.

No, no, no, ghight, you're absolutely right, I have SuSE 9.3 and I use ONLY KDE with it. KDE in SuSE has almost no problems, and the ones there are, I can live with, or solve them by myself. I'm talking about KDE in Kubuntu, which is actualy wierd.

In SuSE, everything is nice and neatly organized - here, couple of folders with everything dumped into them. A lot of apps just not listed, kde-su simply refuses to recognize my root password (nothing serious, just run it from console, takes a bit more time tho), synaptic way more serious and better than its KDE clone...

Of course, I, as a fan of Total Cmd, can't live w/o Krusader, like Konqueror more than Nautilus, etc. I'd just like those apps running and I don't really care what desktop I'm running. I would've started another thread, if I knew that I'll definately stick to Kubuntu. I just burned the Ubuntu live-install DVD to check it out and then maybe install. If I don't like it (and everybody says I will like it) - I guess I would need some help.


Sorry if I confused you ,
svinka

I personally had a terrible experience with Ubuntu/Kubuntu. It just didn't work for me. That's the great thing about Linux. It's just OK and we have tons of choices. These distributions are still fairly new and will continue to get better with each release.

I personally am using SuSE 9.3 (KDE 3.4.1 only) as my workhorse and Fedora Core 4 (KDE 3.4.1 and Gnome 2.10) as my hobby and tinker distro.

I love human nature! Here I am typing in one of these threads like many of you have made an entry here. Instead I should be using my energy on other things. Like maybe working to solve a few other issues on my own computer or I could even be typing to help somebody with a problem -- instead of offering an opinion that's only an opinion!

Oh well, it's fun to listen and be heard anyway! Enjoy the rest of the day!

yeah, I had bad experiences with ubuntu and kubuntu, neither would install on my amd64 box, they froze at the second part of the install, then got kernel panics, and a few other people I know had the same problem.

Sounds like it has some stability and compatibility issues.

So cheater1034--

I'm reading up on the Gentoo installation. I downloaded the ISO. Is the install as tough as what I've read. It looks like all from terminal install. Any tips? I've posted a few ?'s in the Gentoo forum and fast responses to help. Any feedback/ideas are really welcome!

rofl. If I were to compare my girlfriend to a piece of software, I think she'd slap me :P

For my two cents, as i've posted somewhere else already, i like kde > gnome, but it doesn't mean i have no respect for the g-people. Full props to them, they are both excellent desktops.

well, it is not difficult, you just can't give up, people boot the cd and say "i can't do this" and they don't even attempt, read the install manual, it is way descriptive, and is easy to understand, and the install should be easy.

I reccomend reading through the whole manual once, it may take awhile, then printing it, or viewing it in links on the minimal cd, and follow along, just so you understand better.

and if you still can't figure it out, try, http://desktop.vidalinux.com/ it's gentoo, except the kernel gave me trouble, I recompiled it and it didn't work, personally i think if you have trouble with vidalinux, it's vidalinux, it's not a gentoo thing, so vidalinux can set a bad impression.

Kubuntu was exactly what I needed for my desktop machine(see below). It's Debian Sid, preconfigured with KDE (sorry, I flat refuse to look at Gnome anymore), with decent 64-bit performance, on a single CD.

Use whatever works for you, but don't dog the work of volunteer developers just because it wasn't what you were looking for. These people (Kubuntu developers) should be thanked, not chastised. Not to mention this is the first version of Kubuntu as someone pointed out. Not bad considering that I must say. It sure performs a lot faster and better than SuSE did on the hardware below.

yes it runs faster than suse, suse is a easier-based, more graphical distribution, so most distributions are faster.

I like ubuntu, when it works, thought its still not my favorite, i dogged the developers because it has compatibility and possible stability issues. Like I said it crashed on my amd64 computer, when i tried to install the amd64 version twice, and the x86 version once, it crashed at the exact same spot, and on a friend of mines computer, he has a athlon xp, it crashed on the x86 install as well.

I mean, that is definitely not normal, it crashed using dpkg to install a file, and rebooted into a kernel panic.

it worked on a 500 mhz i have, and I liked it, but now that computer runs raw debian, instead of a debian-based distribution, and my amd64 runs gentoo.

For what it's worth, Kubuntu has gremlins like everything else. I guess there is nothing saying that rant threads aren't welcome, heck, I've dropped one or two as well, but this is an old thread. It's turned in to an op-ed piece that on the scale of useful information barely even rates. In three pages of responses there has been nothing asked and nothing fixed.

I think it needs to be left to die gracefully.

Hey this might be the wrong place to post this but I would really appreciate the help. I downloaded kubuntu. but its not in an iso form. its a rar file and when I unzipped it, it just threw like 12 files on my PC and I couldnt figure out how to turn that mess in to a bootable image. Anyone who has been able to do so I would really like to learn. I really liked ubuntu but I just cant use gnome.
thanks

did you download it from kubuntus website?

did you download it as a rar or iso?

do you have winrar installed, and set to handle isos? because by default, in windows, winrar handles isos, and it may be iso format, but just with the winrar icon.

try changing the format to iso, by renaming it in linux, or changing the settings in windows, then rename it, and remove .rar, and add .iso.