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Old 12-13-2007, 09:15 PM   #1
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KDE files needed for Amarok


Hi. I am running kubuntu 7.10. and use Amarok to play radio streams, however I can't get "1.FM-Otto's opera house" and other "soundcast" streams to play. What do I have to install to get them. I got them in 7.04, but don't know how I did it.
I am able to get WCPE & WCLV ok.

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Old 12-17-2007, 12:57 PM   #2
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Could you provide a link to the radio station you are unable to listen?
 
Old 12-17-2007, 09:15 PM   #3
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Could you provide a link to the radio station you are unable to listen?
If you go to Amarok-Audio player>RadioStreams>soundcast Streams>Classical>Otto's opera house.

http://www.1.fm/stations/opera/ViewLastPlayed.aspx
is the URL

There is a whole list of 1.fm stations that I would like to listen to.

I hope this helps.

thanks
 
Old 12-18-2007, 09:49 AM   #4
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You need to put this link:

http://www.1.fm/TuneIn/WM/energyopera128k/Listen.aspx

In your Amarok radio playlists.
 
Old 12-18-2007, 09:59 AM   #5
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That is a windows active server page link. It doesn't contain the stream info you need for amarok, but you can open it in a browser and then use that info to get the correct link.

I opened that link in konqueror. It used xine to play the stream. Then I saved the playlist, and cut and pasted the info I needed. Here is the link I added to "Radio Streams":

mmsh://opera.1.fm/1fmopera128k

I'm listening to it now so it should work for you as well in amarok.

Sometimes a link won't work in a browser but you can get the correct link from the source code for the web page.

Last edited by jschiwal; 12-18-2007 at 10:00 AM.
 
Old 12-18-2007, 10:07 PM   #6
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Thanks but I am at a total loss!! I have no idea of how to implement your suggestions. I know I did not do them in a previous Kubuntu 7.10 installation. I just download a bunch of likely stuff until it worked. I am going back to this older version for now as I have to get some work done.

What I don't understand is Amarok is the KDE default player. It lists all these Radio Streams & soundcasts on a new kubuntu installation but does not give the "plug in"s or what ever you call them needed to play them. I go to the KPackage manager and look at Amarok. I have all the stuff listed as being needed and suggested installed. STILL IT DOES NOT PLAY!! (I can play some fm radio stations and my CD ok)


Please don't get me wrong, I appreciate the trouble and effort you have gone to help an old non-computer-wise me.

Thanks
 
Old 12-19-2007, 07:08 AM   #7
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Just don't loose your patience Pete.

Do you have w32codecs package installed? Without it, Amarok won't be able to play proprietary codec your radio station is using?
 
Old 12-19-2007, 09:23 PM   #8
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The link you provided isn't a type that amarok can use. Another thing, according to the website, soundcasts are not yet supported.

The link is for an active server page, which might return anything.
"echo 'http://www.1.fm/TuneIn/WM/energyopera128k/Listen.aspx".
Firefox was able to handle this and got a list back from the Windows server.

I launched xine by clicking on the link in the browser. Then I saved the playlist. Loading the play list in an editor I located a proper link to use and used that.
From original link, this is what was returned. More aspx links:
Code:
<ASX version = "3.0">
<TITLE>1.FM</TITLE>
<MoreInfo href = "http://www.1.fm" />
<Entry>
      <Ref href = "http://opera.1.fm/1fmopera128k" />
      <PARAM NAME="HTMLView" Value="http://www.1.fm/stations/opera/ViewLastPlayed.aspx"/>
</Entry>
<Entry>
      <Ref href = "http://opera.1.fm/1fmopera128k" />
      <PARAM NAME="HTMLView" Value="http://www.1.fm/stations/opera/ViewLastPlayed.aspx"/>
</Entry>
<Entry>
      <Ref href = "http://opera.1.fm/1fmopera128k" />
      <PARAM NAME="HTMLView" Value="http://www.1.fm/stations/opera/ViewLastPlayed.aspx"/>
</Entry>
</ASX>
The Xine playlist:
Code:
# toxine playlist

entry {
        identifier = http://opera.1.fm/1fmopera128k;
        mrl = http://opera.1.fm/1fmopera128k;
};

entry {
        identifier = 1.FM's - Opera channels (1.FM - Opera;
        mrl = mmsh://opera.1.fm/1fmopera128k;
};

entry {
        identifier = http://opera.1.fm/1fmopera128k;
        mrl = http://opera.1.fm/1fmopera128k;
};

entry {
        identifier = http://opera.1.fm/1fmopera128k;
        mrl = http://opera.1.fm/1fmopera128k;
};
# END
I cut out one of the urls in this list. I picked the one that I have highlighted.
Then I went back to amarok, selected "Radio Streams" --> "Add New Radio Stream", and then pasted "mrl = msh://opera.1.fm/1fmopera128k" for the url entry. After that, I can simply click on the Radio stream entry in amarok to stop playing.

You probably don't have a codec problem. They use a funky Windows Media Player server with a non-standard protocol. Firefox understood that protocol and retrieved a usable link that xine understood. I've had to do this on occasion with podcasts. Most of the links work fine, but on others, I needed to hunt for the correct xml or rss link to use instead.

Last edited by jschiwal; 12-19-2007 at 09:25 PM.
 
Old 12-20-2007, 10:15 AM   #9
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Thanks.
I have gone back to the computer where Amarok works.

I do not know what I downloaded to be able to play these "streams", but I don't think I did any of the things you suggest as I only used "Adept" for my down loads.

The only clues I have arefor Otto's Opera Houne and for Otto's Classical Music and for Radio Swiss Classics.

These are sources listed under "Radio Streams > Shoutcast Streams" in Amarok and from I get "Swiss Radio Classica" and "WCPE" fromand "WCLV" fromAll these items are listed in the "Content" tab of Aramok while they are playing.

I hope this helps.
Thanks
pete
 
Old 12-20-2007, 06:37 PM   #10
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There are two engines that Amarok can use. If you can play these streams in xine, then use the Xine engine. If xine can't play them, you may need some plugins for Xine, rather than for amarok.
 
Old 12-20-2007, 09:56 PM   #11
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Thanks.
I went to kpackage and on the computer where Otto worked, looked at the "xine" packages that were installed. (as you suggested, I think).
xine-ui
amarok-xine
kaffeine-xine
libxinerama-dev
libxine1
libxine1-ffmpeg
libxinerama1
x11proto-xinerama-dev

The computer that didn't like Otto was missing the xine-ui. After installing that, Otto was happy and so was I.

Thanks again.

pete
 
Old 12-21-2007, 05:45 AM   #12
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You have the amarok-xine package installed. Consider installing the xine-browser-plugin. That will allow you to click on a link on a webpage, and do what I did in cases were the server does funny things that amarok doesn't understand.
You may need to use a different repo to get a version that handles propriety formats.
 
Old 12-24-2007, 08:44 AM   #13
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Thanks, I do have "amarok-xine" installed. and everything forks fine.
 
  


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