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Old 06-09-2005, 03:15 AM   #1
daceo
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Mouse uncontrollable on suse 9.1 using kde


Hi, what happened. Everything worked fine for about 9 months, installed some palm stuff using yast, still works fine, started a new email in kmail, and opened a sent email and dragged a zipped file from the sent to the new e-mail (which worked) and suddenly all hell broke loose!

When ever I move the mouse it rushes randomly round the screen randomly clicking on things, lots of windows start to open and weird error messages come up. Some how I sent my e-mail which is fine.

This whole experience is V traumatic because I use this as my main machine…

I have no control over it using the mouse, just total chaos. At the moment all I can do is do a cntrl alt del and turn it off. The reboot does not help, and the mouse seems confused even at the green kde welcome screen.

To get a faster boot up I have put the grub (I think) screen at start up to about half a second so I can’t see that. What do I do? I have made a note of the keyboard ways of moving the pointer and am hoping I can control it like that and through yast re install kde / uninstall the palm stuff I put in recently or something.

Any ideas would be appreciated

System

Fully patched standard suse 9.1
Asus terminator, xp2600 512M ram..

Cheers.
 
Old 06-09-2005, 03:49 AM   #2
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I've only seen this twice.
1. swapped for an older mouse that wasn't detected at reboot - weird driver conflicts.
2. mouse broke

1) dosn't seem to apply to you unless a recent install did something to the driver or mouse settings.
2) I'd check this, JIK, just swap with a mouse you know works or borrow another machine to try your mouse out on.

To help with your system, you can reboot with a CD image (or rescue CD) - see if the mouse will be accepted there or boot into text mode. Whatever happens you can check your configs via the text interface.

[post edit] Oh - if your mous is fine, you may try unplugging the mouse - reboot - remove mouse configuration (this may be automatic) - shut down - plug in mouse - reboot. The driver loader may get all the settings right for you. (rmmod/modprobe may also do this for you.)

Last edited by Simon Bridge; 06-09-2005 at 03:53 AM.
 
Old 06-09-2005, 01:27 PM   #3
daceo
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Thank you Simon for your wise words. It really had not crossed my mind that it could be a hardware related problem. Still not sure, but plugging in another mouse and rebooting has seemed to restore order. I have now put back the original mouse and that seems to be working again. Thank you for saving me from a potentially futile evening of reinstalling etc.....

The shift num lock seems to work well with + = left click, to use the number pad as a mouse, if anyone finds them self in this predicament...

cheers again

daceo

Last edited by daceo; 06-09-2005 at 01:28 PM.
 
Old 06-10-2005, 04:10 AM   #4
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Cool - sometimes some cached setting get messed up - could be anything from solar flare to brownouts wot you wouldn't even notice. Or, stray bytes from an install. Overclocking can do odd things too.

Forcing the system to reset it's drivers (like, the musical mouse game above) is a common solution.
 
Old 06-13-2005, 07:04 PM   #5
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i have this problem, too... but mine start being uncontrollable from installation... i made all with keyboard

my mouse is working: i'm using a switch, and i have this problem only with suse *__*

i really haven't any idea for resolving this
 
Old 06-14-2005, 03:12 AM   #6
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OK:
1. please put your distro and ocation in your profile (click "My LQ" in the banner and follow your nose: it helps.)

2. do you have a problem or not? I'm confused because at the start of your message you say "i [sic] have this problem [uncontrollable mouse] too" but later you say "my mouse is working"...

Is it that you cannot control your mouse in SuSE? What do you mean "i'm [sic] using a switch" ... is this a KVM switch?
 
Old 06-14-2005, 04:45 AM   #7
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hmmm, you're right, sorry

i have still that problem [uncontrollable mouse]... i know that my mouse is fine because i'm unsing a kvm switch, and with the other pc it works, and with any other os in the current suse pc it works, too

yesterday evening after posting i tried again, and plugged it with an ps2->usb converter, it worked, no more random moviments.
but i cannot still plug it as ps2 without getting this execrable behaviour... *_*
(usb converter is right now my only solution to this problem, i'll keep my conveter on if i cannot get my mouse work in another way... this is not a great sacrifice, at all.
still i prefer to plug with ps2, so if someone can help me... )

thanks anyway
 
Old 06-15-2005, 08:02 PM   #8
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I too have had this problem with SuSE 9.1, but with only one mouse, a logitec high resolution 800 dpi
i plugged in a usb mouse, plugger picked it up and configured it, and i was good to go.
i call it a minor bug and let it go.
 
Old 06-19-2005, 04:32 AM   #9
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whitout: OK - cool. Looks like SuSE prefers the USB HID connection for some reason. Do you also use a USB keyboard (or any onther HID through USB)?

Have you tried power-off, remove mouse, reboot, shutdown, add mouse to PS/2, reboot ... sequence? (You may need to manually remove the USB-HID module though.)

fishyfool: poisson d'Avril? (nope - wrong date ...) Are you saying that one brand of PS/2 mouse works not with SuSE 9.1 ?
 
  


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