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Old 01-26-2014, 09:02 AM   #1
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X crashes when starting a firefox, gkrellm, gimp .......

Hi, I've installed 14.1 and all went well. I started X (fluxbox) and works fine, can open rxvt but when I start firefox and other app's it crashes...anyone can help .....14.0 works fine

Old 01-26-2014, 09:07 AM   #2
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What kind of video card do you have?
Old 01-26-2014, 09:10 AM   #3
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AMD/ATI 3D Rage PRO AGP 2X ....that's what lspci say's
Old 01-26-2014, 10:04 AM   #4
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Seems like a driver problem. I had a similar problem with my HP tower that has an nvidia graphics card. Starting with the 3.8 kernel and up I would have the same problems as you are describing and i had to install the proprietary drivers from nvidia to correct the problem.

I found a bug reported for ubuntu about what looks liek a similar problem.

I'm not sure how to fix this in your case as I'm not sure if there's a proprietary driver for your video card. Maybe someone else with more experience with these can help further.

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Old 01-27-2014, 10:37 AM   #5
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Ok, I'm a little confused which driver to download there are a few. Could anyone point me in the right direction please.

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clean install on 14.1 or an upgrade?
Old 01-27-2014, 09:06 PM   #7
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Before you settle on what action to take you made need to know more about that video card. The "Ati Rage Pro" came in many variations and some of them were specific to OEMs like Dell. Many of them were enough modified from reference to crash Windows without the OEMs specific driver. How they work in Linux with what driver will depend a lot on whether or not it is one of these OEM mod cards.
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The ATI Rage Pro, sadly, utilizes the Mach64 driver.

Mach64 didn't receive a lot of attention to become a very stable or reliable driver for DRI rendering. At best, you can get some 2D acceleration, but otherwise it's not the most stable driver and very else can be done. It's known to crash also if the DRM is loaded, so you may wish to pass the option "NoAccel" "true" flag in the Section "Device" section of your xorg.conf file so that the card doesn't crash.

Arch's Wiki has a link to the external kernel module, as by default, no module exists for this video card within the kernel, period. I have no idea how well it performs, but here's a sourcelink:

You're more or less on your own with this one.

You'll also have to download, rebuild, and re-install xf86-video-mach64 with configure option --enable-dri by hand, possibly (as I honestly can't read the Slackware script to build and install this single stand-alone driver).

I won't post the exact method I use, due to the fact the method I use is different from Slackware's, so you may need to ask Patrick, Robby, or Eric about this...

As far as Mesa3D... it should use the older Tungsten Graphics API driver, but you may want to check and see if it is in the Mesa3D list for compiled DRI drivers... such as this flag for libmesa:

--with-dri-drivers=unichrome,mach64,mga,r128,savage,sis,tdfx \
I will warn you, this is possibly entirely unsupported by Slackware officially, and results may vary for you from good to bad.

And for that... I wash my hands of this topic.

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Old 01-27-2014, 11:43 PM   #9
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Can you check what X driver is being used (I think Xorg.0.log should show you this info)?

If it is truly the mach64 driver then the patch suggested in this bug report (which has been upstreamed) should solve your problem (the OP in this related thread solved their problem with this patch).


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