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Old 12-02-2014, 04:54 AM   #1
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Where I can find Opera BETA v26 for Slackware (x86, not x86_64)?


The title say everything. I need for some tests the Opera Web Browser under version 26 and x86 (i386) ARCH, if it exists.

I can find only the x86_64 variant in the Opera site. Or maybe I do not know how to made the search right?

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Old 12-02-2014, 06:29 AM   #2
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Isn't the latest Opera version 12.16?
 
Old 12-02-2014, 08:09 AM   #3
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Isn't the latest Opera version 12.16?
No, he's asking about the new one, not the good one. ( yes, I'm still bitter )
 
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Old 12-02-2014, 08:29 AM   #4
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The title say everything. I need for some tests the Opera Web Browser under version 26 and x86 (i386) ARCH, if it exists.

I can find only the x86_64 variant in the Opera site. Or maybe I do not know how to made the search right?
I don't think it exists. I played around with the download url based on other links I found on the site, and replacing the opsys of linux with linux-i386 and then going to the beta redirects you to a stable x86_64 package.

Code:
http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?os=linux-i386                                     #Opera stable download link -- i386
http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?os=linux                                          #Opera stable download link -- x86_64
http://www.opera.com/download/get/?partner=www&opsys=linux&product=Opera%20beta        #Opera beta download link -- x86_64
http://www.opera.com/download/get/?partner=www&opsys=linux-i386&product=Opera%20beta   #Should provide Opera beta for 32bit, but redirects to 64bit stable
Hopefully I can be proved wrong, or ruario can come in and clarify whether it is actually available...

Good luck!
 
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Old 12-02-2014, 09:23 AM   #5
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I also gave it a try, but I used the partner links (2) I could find.
None of them have any other version than the 64-bit...

http://operasoftware.pc.cdn.bitgravi...ub/opera-beta/

http://get.geo.opera.com.global.prod...ub/opera-beta/
 
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Old 12-02-2014, 11:33 AM   #6
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Isn't the latest Opera version 12.16?
No.
 
Old 12-02-2014, 11:36 AM   #7
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I don't think it exists. I played around with the download url based on other links I found on the site, and replacing the opsys of linux with linux-i386 and then going to the beta redirects you to a stable x86_64 package.

Code:
http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?os=linux-i386                                     #Opera stable download link -- i386
http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?os=linux                                          #Opera stable download link -- x86_64
http://www.opera.com/download/get/?partner=www&opsys=linux&product=Opera%20beta        #Opera beta download link -- x86_64
http://www.opera.com/download/get/?partner=www&opsys=linux-i386&product=Opera%20beta   #Should provide Opera beta for 32bit, but redirects to 64bit stable
Hopefully I can be proved wrong, or ruario can come in and clarify whether it is actually available...

Good luck!
Just like what I found, too.

Looks like our friend ruario is our only hope to enlighten us...
 
Old 12-02-2014, 11:38 AM   #8
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I also gave it a try, but I used the partner links (2) I could find.
None of them have any other version than the 64-bit...

http://operasoftware.pc.cdn.bitgravi...ub/opera-beta/

http://get.geo.opera.com.global.prod...ub/opera-beta/
Yep. Looks like there is no more Opera for our ol'good Slackware (i486).
 
Old 12-02-2014, 02:03 PM   #9
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Yep. Looks like there is no more Opera for our ol'good Slackware (i486).
Tried to find more info, but ended up with 12.16 being the last for 32-Bit Linux
http://www.opera.com/download/guide/...-i386&list=all

I didn't find any (real) info on why they no longer will support 32-bit though...

Edit:
Maybe later on when beta testing is done?

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Old 12-02-2014, 02:13 PM   #10
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No, there isn't a public version of Opera 26 (beta) and 27 (developer) for 32-Bit Linux systems at the moment. It can be built but it has not really been tested by QA and changes need to be made to our automated build system and testing setups to accommodate it.

Since Linux was already significantly delayed in relation to the other platforms we focussed all our resources on getting 64-Bit out first, as this what most of our current Linux users have installed. Once we have a stable version of Opera 26 out we will re-consider the architecture question again.
 
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Old 12-02-2014, 02:16 PM   #11
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As a side note, you should consider Slackware64 because that is what all the cool kids run. Additionally I have not come across a PC-compatible machine built in the last 5 years (maybe even longer) that couldn't run a 64-Bit OS.
 
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No, he's asking about the new one, not the good one. ( yes, I'm still bitter )
I'm sorry to hear it but we could not have carried on down that route for the long term. So there is no reason to be bitter with anyone working at Opera. Presto was not cheap to develop and maintain and the competition was increasingly filled with the biggest IT companies on the planet (Microsoft, Apple, Google).

Far better to work jointly on an Engine (Blink) with others. If we had kept down our own route, I would guess we couldn't have continued after a few years anyway. You would still have the issue of no new Presto and there would be one less competitor and contributor.

Opera is now a fairly significant contributor to various open source projects (such as Blink, Chromium and V8). Thus, even users of Chromium benefit from our work. On the Linux side the latest thing we are doing is adding Atk support to Chromium, which we intend to upstream.

I hear talk of us being a Chrome skin but I don't buy it. We make real contributions to the projects on which we are based and we are the only Chromium-based browser that tracks the latest Chromium version (and hence has all security fixes).

In addition we still have a number of unique things going for us. Some of my favourites being:
  • The best Speed Dial
  • The best HiDPI support on Linux (this includes Chrome and Firefox)
  • Activation order tab cycling options
  • Keyboard shortcuts are customisable
  • Large tab preview
  • Extensions in the store are reviewed
  • Built in mouse and rocker gestures
  • Single key shortcuts
  • Bookmark (collections) sharing
  • Tab menu
 
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Old 12-02-2014, 04:01 PM   #13
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ruario, I don't know if you have power on this but has been open sourcing Presto considered?

To be honest, I lost a reason to use Opera when it switched to Blink. Chrome has better html5 support and anything you might miss with Opera you can find a Chrome extension.
 
Old 12-02-2014, 04:03 PM   #14
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Oh, I don't hold it against any of the employees, don't worry about that!
 
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ruario, I don't know if you have power on this but has been open sourcing Presto considered?
No, I don't have that kind of power. I cannot see that happening any time soon. Presto is still used in many products.

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To be honest, I lost a reason to use Opera when it switched to Blink. Chrome has better html5 support and anything you might miss with Opera you can find a Chrome extension.
The HTML5 support is identical and no you cannot do everything with an extension. You can see that just by using my list of favourite things: Can you improve Chrome's HiDPI support via an extension? No. Are there any decent extensions with Activation order tab cycling? No. Are there Tab Menu like extensions with a large preview of the page? No.

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Oh, I don't hold it against any of the employees, don't worry about that!
Just dissapointed. Ok, I get that. There are things I miss as well. But I still think the new Opera is great and would use it even if I didn't work here.

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