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Old 12-03-2014, 03:53 AM   #16
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Oh I almost forgot, we released the stable version of 26 for Linux today:

http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/...era-computers/
 
Old 12-03-2014, 07:48 AM   #17
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Well, I really loved Opera I wanted to go back to it someday. Too bad I am on i486 Slackware.
 
Old 12-03-2014, 08:15 AM   #18
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I'm sorry to hear it but we could not have carried on down that route for the long term. So there is no reason to be bitter with anyone working at Opera. Presto was not cheap to develop and maintain and the competition was increasingly filled with the biggest IT companies on the planet (Microsoft, Apple, Google).
The biggest IT companies on the planet still haven't managed to come up with a file manager as brilliant as Total Commander, which is the work of a single developer. It seems the bigger they get the more stupid they get.

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I hear talk of us being a Chrome skin but I don't buy it.
This new abomination called Opera is more than a Chrome skin; it's a Chrome clone put out by a European company which was "leaned on" by Google and timidly yielded to their demands, the same way Nokia was "leaned on" and destroyed by Microsoft.

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In addition we still have a number of unique things going for us. Some of my favourites being:
  • The best Speed Dial
  • The best HiDPI support on Linux (this includes Chrome and Firefox)
  • Activation order tab cycling options
  • Keyboard shortcuts are customisable
  • Large tab preview
  • Extensions in the store are reviewed
  • Built in mouse and rocker gestures
  • Single key shortcuts
  • Bookmark (collections) sharing
  • Tab menu
No vertical stacking of tabs. No easy way to configure CSS styling per page. No customized context menu. No way of opting out of the Google-like spyware embedded in the browser. No thanks. Paid for Opera ten years ago. Would never give them a red cent again.
 
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:15 AM   #19
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The biggest IT companies on the planet still haven't managed to come up with a file manager as brilliant as Total Commander, which is the work of a single developer. It seems the bigger they get the more stupid they get.



This new abomination called Opera is more than a Chrome skin; it's a Chrome clone put out by a European company which was "leaned on" by Google and timidly yielded to their demands, the same way Nokia was "leaned on" and destroyed by Microsoft.



No vertical stacking of tabs. No easy way to configure CSS styling per page. No customized context menu. No way of opting out of the Google-like spyware embedded in the browser. No thanks. Paid for Opera ten years ago. Would never give them a red cent again.
I agree wholeheartedly. I've used Opera since 3.12. It was the small things that differentiated Opera from the rest of the crowd, attributes that they shed by the wayside - speed, Unite, 32 bit compatibility, and now, the final straw for me - Notes. Goodbye Opera, my old friend, I'll miss you.
 
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:27 AM   #20
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As a side note, you should consider Slackware64 because that is what all the cool kids run. Additionally I have not come across a PC-compatible machine built in the last 5 years (maybe even longer) that couldn't run a 64-Bit OS.
As a side note, what a pity that the officials of the Ministry of Education and Research of Italy, usual are, however, old and ugly, so they claim that a software solution to run on any toaster, starting with those equipped with socket 478 processor (aka pure 32bit Pentium 4 or Celeron) or socket 754.

And, well, one of the projects developed by the company where I work, is an e-Learning Portal using HTML5 technologies extensively, with nice things such as WebSockets, WebRTC, Filesystem API, etc ...

Where, IN PRESENT, there is only ONE web browser that provides such as support: Google Chrome. And of course, there is also his stepson, Chromium.

However, developing a solution that requires a very specific Web browser from a very particular company (Google), is not a good idea, as seen by the Italian Republic officials, as on any European Institution.

Trying to help my colleagues, I had a (brilliant?) idea, that the Opera 26+ provides similar HTML5 support, while (bonus points!) Opera is a Proud All European software. So my colleagues may specify the Opera Browser, as a being supported by that e-Learning portal and maybe even recommend as... recommended web browser on using it.

What a pity that our Opera is, right now, a web browser designed exclusively for the cool kids playing with x86_64 thingies...

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Old 12-04-2014, 05:37 PM   #21
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I still didn't get something: would it be so hard to compile Opera for 32 and 64bits?
 
Old 12-04-2014, 05:51 PM   #22
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I still didn't get something: would it be so hard to compile Opera for 32 and 64bits?
Try.
 
Old 12-04-2014, 06:14 PM   #23
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Try.
I am asking that for the Opera developers, Opera is not open source.
 
Old 12-05-2014, 12:36 AM   #24
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I am asking that for the Opera developers, Opera is not open source.
Good point, I missed that.

In the mean time, ruario already answered in post #10: it's not just building, it's also be able to insure a sufficient quality level. I would add, especially considering that Opera being not open source: one can't count on skilled users to help debugging then.
 
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Old 12-05-2014, 10:24 AM   #25
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Good point, I missed that.

In the mean time, ruario already answered in post #10: it's not just building, it's also be able to insure a sufficient quality level. I would add, especially considering that Opera being not open source: one can't count on skilled users to help debugging then.
My bet is that is just an "visionary" Opera's Management decision, which Management see the non-64bit World as history...
 
Old 12-05-2014, 08:01 PM   #26
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I also used to pay for Opera when it offered the "pay to make the ads" go away version. It has been my go-to browser almost since it first went public.

I have Opera 26 for Windows on my Windows box. It is an empty shell of what used to be. I don't care all that much about the browser engine, but the feature-set has been gutted. The features that have kept me loyal to Opera--having the browser, mail client, and RSS reader in one neat package--seem to be gone, missing along with the high degree of user configurability that Opera offered. The "Notes," on which I have come to rely heavily, also seem to be MIA.

I can see coming a time when I will no longer use Opera, because available versions will no longer offer the features that I most valued.
 
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I don't see any reason to use Opera. Any really compelling reason.
 
Old 12-05-2014, 09:18 PM   #28
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I don't see any reason to use Opera. Any really compelling reason.
Not any more.
 
  


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