Just out of interest, which Cinelerra did you try? Cinelerra-gg seems to be where most of the activity is now.

It was a while back, I grant you, but it completely put me off. It didn't offer any of the flexibility of Kdenlive (choice of output containers, formats, etc), was very fussy and difficult to compile. The Kdenlive in Eric's Plasma 5 packages "just works", offers great flexibility, and a very similar environment to the professional systems I used to use.

I should add that I learned editing on 2" Quadruplex video-tape machines and on occasion even had to do "razor-blade" edits. (Anyone who worked in TV in the last century will know what I'm talking about! )

Kdenlive is very similar to the Quantel systems I worked on prior to retiring, and also has similarities to other, well-known timeline editors. In addition, it is very un-fussy about input or output requirements. It can basically handle anything that FFMpeg can handle. The last time I tried Cinelerra (and I admit it was a while ago) I recall having to run the input and output video through ffmpeg first, to get it into a format that Cinelerra recognised. And that was after hours spent trying to make it compile!

Thanks, but no thanks! Life is too short!

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Pete

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I rather frequently use Kdenlive for various video projects and I am pleased with it. I find that the Kdenlive appimages are more reliable than the compiled versions and actually I want to edit video not fight with dependencies and new vs old versions of deps. I do some of my recording in Windows because I need or want the advanced DSLR camera support and speech to text but I do all of the editing and rendering and subtitling in Linux simply because it is more powerful. The windows version of Kdenlive sort of runs but it is buggy and irritating. I tried some other video editors in windows and linux and settled on Kdenlive.

Personally, in Slackware 64-bit, I don't have such plans any more, I think to leave only OpenBox, IceWM, JWM, XFCE and all the necessary src, libraries, and applications for building. I prefer fine adjust XFCE. It very fast and usable. All other work now i make can with AI mashine in QEMU. Work is prefer.

But my little son play games and have school lessons, at UbuntuStudio 20.10 .

About KDE5 today < i escape this > .

Enough live version of Slackware64 KDE Plasma 5 with the 'toram' option on the start line. In this trouble-free state, I specifically tested it uptime for more than six months at pc with 8Gb ram. But it was 2 year back, complete with old stable kernel.
It was good, but now oldy.

Now i think 14.3 for KDE 4 or 14.2/updates, 15.0 for KDE PLASMA 5 .

Greetings! I doubt there will be a 14.3 and KDE4 is dead. Mr. Volkerding will of course support KDE4 in Slackware 14.2 with security patches for quite some time. I welcome KDE-plasma in 15.0; it's an outstanding desktop.

It was a year ago that people on the list had suggested 14.3 but it was dismissed as Slackware 15.0 was just around the corner. A year has passed, no 14.3 and no 15.0. To suggest that 15.0 is just around the corner, I beg to differ -- we have been here before.

I suggested a Slackware 14.3 back on October 4th 2019.

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post6043855

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I did not say in this thread that 15.0 is just around the corner. Like you I do not know the ETA of 15.0. It will be a glorious day when KDE-plasma arrives in the -current branch.

Yes it will be a glorious day when Plasma hits Slacware. I am fine with the time. When it is ready, we will know. I don't care about how long it takes. There is always more to things than they seem.

I could have stayed with 14.2, but Eric created ktown. I was intrigued. I decided to switch to -current. Now we have plasma, and sooner (or later) we will have it in Slackware proper.

I'm fine with the wait. While I wait, I'm playing with my own Plasma build just for the heck of it.

It's been suggested to have another release for a few years. It's always easy to look back and realize there should've been a release, but it's not necessarily easy to look at that time and know that it'd be another year without a release.

Pat expected only a "day or two" of PAM being in testing/ before being merged into the main tree and it took 3 months. There's been a lot of saying that Plasma5 is "right around the corner", but maybe that is taking much longer than expected to roll into -current or maybe Pat has other things happening in his life that prevents him from focusing all his time towards Slackware.

All that said, if we have a 14.3 release still running KDE4 and Xfce 4.12 after 4 YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT, that is an extremely poor look to the rest of the world. Shipping Slackware with major desktops being severely outdated and/or EOL (I know KDE4 is EOL, not sure about Xfce 4.12) after 4 years of development would be very bad.

I'm itching for a release like pretty much everyone else, but a bandaid 14.3 will do more harm than waiting for a proper 15.0.

somehow AlienBob sounds quite optimistic about KDE5 in Slackware
that's good

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Several people including me are very optimistic about Plasma5, and yes it is good. It's so easy to find out why if you just try a KTown LiveSlack. In less than an hour you can try Slackware's Plasma5 with zero commitment or changes. Well... that does assume you can boot from USB, since optical media REALLY shows it's snail pace when booting a truly full OpSys.

As important as 64bit and numerous other projects that are part and parcel of the superb work AlienBob does, I don't think it is yet recognized how hugely important LiveSlak can and should be. Every Slacker should have at least one... and share it with friends and family.

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Indeed! His posts are very enthusiastic about KDE5; he is in the inner circle.

I'd like to see Slackware15 drop with no desktops at all.

Although Slackware still keeps ties to tradition as a full featured OS, there are a massive number of other distros providing this experience. If all you want is a stable OS that runs out of the box, I don't see how Slackware is your best option in 2020.

Instead, I think Slackware's value proposition is providing an outstanding base system that's a unique combination of traditional and modern tools. Why not focus limited energy and resources on an achievable goal?

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Interesting idea. No thank you.
I really appreciate the fact that the Slackware installation media allows me to choose what I want to install. I can choose a full featured desktop environment or I can choose a bare bones server installation, depending on my needs.
The Slackware installation media meets our needs. KDE-plasma will be a welcome addition to Slackware 15.0.

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Hi, I like your idea.