Yep. For me it was a great disappointment. I owe the Dropline guys so much. Without them, I probably would have not stayed with Slackware.

The only major change for the moment it is the 'kdav' module, it is in frameworks modules now, before it was in the kdepim module this change need to modify kde/modules/frameworks and kde/modules/kdepim in the source of the Eric scripts.

This may be true, but in my case, there are a few apps that Plasma 5 brings that are extremely valuable to me, and pretty much need a full Plasma 5 install to run. Kdenlive, to name but one, which I use a lot, and is no longer supported under KDE4.

Yes, I can run Kdenlive under Xfce, but I still need to have an awful lot of Plasma 5 to support it. Yes, I could use an appimage, but again, that image will contain an awful lot of Plasma 5. If I use a lot of appimages, I am duplicating a lot of stuff unnecessarily.

In my case, Plasma 5 is essential for me to run the apps I need. The only other distro I have used recently is Mageia, (which has had Plasma 5 for some years now). I installed this on my wife's computer and on her sister's, mainly because it is very simple for them to maintain without requiring any intervention from me. But it is something of a nightmare to recompile packages on if required. Fine for them, as they only use their machines for email, web-browsing etc. Not so good for me when I need to compile my own stuff, or recompile it to enable features not added by the maintainers! (This is where Slackware excels!)

So for me, it is not a question of some sort of religious belief, or requiring the latest and greatest - just a need to be able to run the apps that I depend on quite heavily!

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Well, if that's the only video editor you like, I understand your frustration. As an aside, while I don't like at all GNOME as a desktop, I must admit that at least I could upgrade all components they ship or host needed for accessibility to their latest versions with no hassle. I have http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gnome/sources/ bookmarked Too bad that this be not true for GDM, this graphical login manager is awesome but I have to stick to version 2.20.11 released more than ten years ago, not to pull too many dependencies. At list it works and is fully accessible with speech.

One of the things I plan to play with on my test plasma 5 build is eliminating qt4. I'm currently in a build run right now with the latest versions of frameworks, plasma and applications. I had a few order of build changes and an issue with the systemsettings tarball containing the build directory. Reported it, it is fixed now. Other issues have been one "xz: (stdin): Compressed data is corrupt", which ran fine on a subsequent run, three "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" (using gcc 10, I get these same faults with gcc 9 too) no issues on next runs. All in all I'm on my 15th run (one stoppage was a manual one) with this build. Once I get a clean sweep, I will start to play.

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Yes, I appreciate that there are other editors available on Linux, but Kdenlive is the pick of the bunch! (I'm now retired, but was a professional video editor in broadcast TV for over 40 years!)

I also have access to a Mac running DaVinci Resolve. Resolve is better at still image processing, slow motion effects and colour correction, but for basic editing there is nothing to choose between them. Resolve is available for Linux, but is quite restricted compared to the Mac and Windoze versions, and is designed to run on RedHat or CentOS. No doubt it could be made to run on Slackware, but I suspect it would be hard work!

So yes, for video editing, Kdenlive is really the only choice. But as I hinted, there are other apps that are heavily based on Plasma 5 and are also extremely useful, so for my purposes, Plasma 5 is pretty much essential!

I would have had to migrate elsewhere some time ago, had it not been for Eric's excellent work!

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Even though I do not currently provide monthly updates to ktown, I will ensure that the Plasma5 desktop does not break while Patrick is play-testing the kde.SlackBuild. I use Plasma5 desktop as my daily driver so it needs to work. If I fix something, obviously I will share that with the community via my repository.
Examples: upgrading my elogind-aware polkit in ktown to match a Slackware upgrade; and more recently adding mozjs68 to ktown because Slackware dropped that when it upgraded polkit yet again.

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I'm sure I speak for many when I say thank you for all your efforts, Eric!

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also the user-manager plasma module is removed now, this need to be removed in the kde/modules/plasma

There was also an add, plasma-disks - Monitors S.M.A.R.T. capable devices.

In my neighborhood lives sort of oracle. She says it is unethical to tell people winning lotto numbers, but maybe she would tell when will be new Slackware release and will it be shipped with KDE?

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You have right

Cinelerra

Tried it, gave up! Awful thing! "User hostile"!

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In addition to the apps, Plasma 5 just includes all the features I like with very little fiddling to set them up. With most other DEs I need to use a hodgepodge of third party apps to get the same behavior, spend awhile configuring them as close to my liking as possible, and even then it might not integrate well. Cinnamon is a fairly close 2nd, but that's not officially supported either. I would seriously consider jumping distros if Plasma 5 did not make it into Slackware 15, despite really not wanting to have to go through that.

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