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Old 06-23-2006, 04:14 PM   #1
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what's happened to the slackware packages


Hello,

Is something going on? I haven't had my slackware box connected to the net for a while. when i look to update my packages i find that most of them are newer than the ones in slackware current. e.g kde is 3.5.1 in current - but i downloaded 3.5.2 using "slackpkg" sometime ago. I also have koffice 1.5, but 1.4.2 is the latest version in current?

am i missing something??
 
Old 06-23-2006, 04:39 PM   #2
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current is now at 3.5.3 according to my mirror.


Sun Jun 4 22:17:14 CDT 2006
kde/kdebase-3.5.3-i486-1.tgz: Upgraded to kdebase-3.5.3.

ftp://ftp.slackware.at/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt

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Old 06-23-2006, 05:56 PM   #3
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Check your mirror. We upgraded to KDE 3.5.1 on Thu Feb 9 17:24:25 CST 2006.
Latest -current updates were on Thu Jun 22 23:10:53 CDT 2006.
Perhaps you're using a mirror that's not 'current'?
 
Old 06-23-2006, 08:35 PM   #4
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You mean a not current '-current'? lol
 
Old 06-23-2006, 09:15 PM   #5
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Yeah, such as the link ringwraith posted.
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current is now at 3.5.3 according to my mirror.


Sun Jun 4 22:17:14 CDT 2006
kde/kdebase-3.5.3-i486-1.tgz: Upgraded to kdebase-3.5.3.

ftp://ftp.slackware.at/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt
It's not "current" -- as of:
Code:
mingdao@paul:~$ date
Sat Jun 24 10:10:57 CST 2006
it has:
Quote:
Thu Jun 15 00:39:04 CDT 2006
which is over a week behind.

While the Official Slackware -current ChangeLog has:
Quote:
Thu Jun 22 23:10:53 CDT 2006
I'm not going through all the mirrors. Even the Official Slackware Package Browser site's -current ChangeLog is old; it has:
Quote:
Sat Mar 4 19:54:26 CST 2006
You can check other mirrors and find they're not all "current" -- so only depend upon Pat's Official Slackware -currrent ChangeLog.txt.
 
Old 06-24-2006, 05:09 PM   #6
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on slackware.com it is listed as kde 3.5.1

http://slackware.it/en/pb/browse.php.../slackware/kde

i'm really confused.......... why is the website behind it's own changelog. in fact behind the packages i downloaded over a month ago........ also i am using the same mirror i downloaded kde 3.5.2 on and now the packages is 3.5.1 on the same mirror....?????????

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Old 06-24-2006, 05:30 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by satinet
on slackware.com it is listed as kde 3.5.1

http://slackware.it/en/pb/browse.php.../slackware/kde

i'm really confused.......... why is the website and any mirror behind. in fact behind the packages i downloaded over a month ago........
Your confusion is understandable, because you got there from Slackware's Official website. Look at the address in your link. That is not slackware.com, it's slackware.it.

Browse to The Slackware Linux Project and read Test on the package browser. In that paragraph you will read:
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Everyone is invited to give a look over there, and report any kind of problem you may find.
Andreas Liebschner is the one who maintains the Slackware websites, and I emailed him concerning this in Aug. 2005. Perahps if you email, then another voice will be heard. Andreas' email address is fizban@slackware.com -- or if you prefer, Patrick Volkerding's (the Slackware Maintainer) email address is volkerdi@slackware.com

Now you may return to the The Slackware Linux Project home page and find ChangeLogs over on the left hand side, in the vertical menu box. Click on that link and you'll be able to read:
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The latest ChangeLogs can always be found on ftp://ftp.slackware.com
which, as I stated in the above post, is the Official Slackware Linux ChangeLog.
 
Old 06-24-2006, 05:48 PM   #8
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Originally posted by satinet
also i am using the same mirror i downloaded kde 3.5.2 on and now the packages is 3.5.1 on the same mirror....?????????
I see you had an edit from the original post.

When you want updates, you should check your mirror against the Official Slackware Linux Project ChangeLog. The link for the Slackware -current ChangeLog will tell you the latest date Pat has added packages. When I last checked at
Code:
Sun Jun 25 06:38:42 CST 2006
the latest additions to -current were Thu Jun 22 23:10:53 CDT 2006.

Now you need to find a mirror that has those updates.

Or, if you prefer, you can do as I do. Get Alien_Bob's Slackware -current mirror script and keep a mirror of it on your own server (this is what cwwilson721 does, also). You still need to choose a mirror, and it might not be updated as soon as Pat's new ChangeLog shows up. In fact, none of them ever do -- the earliest is usually about 24 hours from Pat's posting.

That script will make CDs and/or a DVD images, so you can either use that, or NFS, or Samba to install. Yesterday I installed -current to an old Compaq Presario 1200 via NFS with -current , freeing it from the evil clutches of Bill Gates' Micro$loth.
 
Old 06-24-2006, 05:58 PM   #9
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That is EXACTLY what I do, with one small addition:

My main server has a '/mirror' partition on it, so I just slap in an old 10.2 cd1, and install from the partition. WICKED FAST! ~10min on install, another 10 to get my other backups (on the same partition).

I have the /mirror as a nfs share, so I can reload any of my systems quickly. They also all have their own subdirs on it for specific hardware, etc. (Including kernels that were compiled for that machine, packages I built for each machine). It also includes a universal dir, for things on all of them, like scripts, useful programs, security, etc, all precompiled/packaged.

Edit***

Am working on tagfiles and scripts to automate the reinstall process. That way, just one script after the install, and boom, it's done.

And HUGE thanks to Alien Bob (My pet fish, Eric) who showed me the script to make the mirror and the CDs/DVDs

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Old 06-24-2006, 06:37 PM   #10
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Pretty much the same here, except I rsync ~/ of 4 comps on this LAN to the server every night whilst I sleep -- so each day's changes are there. And I have another directory where I put Slackware-10.2 (amounts to CD1 and 2), and another that rsync's 10.2-patches.

How close are you to Pickwick, cwwilson? Sure do miss catching Smallies.
 
Old 06-24-2006, 06:52 PM   #11
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That was from 'Monty Python'...When John Cleese tries to gat a licence for his 'pet fish, Eric'

I live about 2 hous or so from there (I'm assuming you mean the resevoir)
 
Old 06-24-2006, 06:56 PM   #12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinaman
Yeah, such as the link ringwraith posted.


It's not "current" -- as of:
Code:
mingdao@paul:~$ date
Sat Jun 24 10:10:57 CST 2006
it has:

which is over a week behind.

While the Official Slackware -current ChangeLog has:


I'm not going through all the mirrors. Even the Official Slackware Package Browser site's -current ChangeLog is old; it has:

You can check other mirrors and find they're not all "current" -- so only depend upon Pat's Official Slackware -currrent ChangeLog.txt.
But of course none of those updates involved kde which was the point of the post. Also we are all advised not to use ftp.slackware.com for downloading, so as not to slow down the mirrors in staying synced. So I do not check the changelogs there, because what would be the point in knowing an update is out that I will not download until it is on the mirror. Most of the major mirrors stay reasonably up to date.
 
Old 06-24-2006, 08:40 PM   #13
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Originally posted by ringwraith
So I do not check the changelogs there, because what would be the point in knowing an update is out that I will not download until it is on the mirror.
But "your mirror" isn't -current, only Pat's mirror. You can learn what's -current and not d/l.

The OP said
Quote:
when i look to update my packages i find that most of them are newer than the ones in slackware current. e.g kde
emphasis on "most of them" and "e.g. kde" which means, for example -- there are many
other packages which he is also concerned about.

The point I made, which you missed, it that "your mirror" is neither correct, up-to-date,
nor official. Anyone wishing to know which are the latest packages, as the OPs query,
should use Pat's ChangeLog.txt. Mirrors are just that ... someone who chooses to mirror
the distro. Both cwwilson721 and I mirror Slackware-current, but you shouldn't cite our
servers as having the latest updates from Pat, either.

 
Old 06-24-2006, 08:43 PM   #14
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Heck, I only update mine about once a week. I first look at pats changelog at the ftp site, see if its worthwhile, then kick up the mirror.sh.....
 
Old 06-24-2006, 08:45 PM   #15
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