The Ultimate "When Will The Next Slackware Release Arrive" MegaThread
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As you can see, Slackware 10.2 is still using a 2.4 kernel (2.4.31)
for the default system kernel. The 2.4.31 kernel has been rock-
solid here, and it seemed best to put out one more 2.4 based 10.x
release of Slackware before heading full-force into 2.6 territory
because a lot of people are going to want to be running the 2.4
kernel on production machines for a long time to come, and some of
the changes to the system that will be needed to fully embrace all
of 2.6's features aren't necessarily 2.4 kernel-friendly. The next
version of Slackware will focus on the 2.6 kernel.
Pat's implementation of gnome would be horribly crippled.(no HAL, crippled udev, etc etc.)
What do you mean by "crippled udev" ? AFAIK Pat doesn't modify original sources (as possible) with his own obscure patches often seen at other distros.
Either way, it doesn't matter, as gnome won't work on a Slackware machine without first replacing his udev with one that works with gnome, it might have to do with the fact that Pat releases a udev that is about thirty versions behind the latest.
I see, but there is an incorrect conclusion. When A doesn't work with B it doesn't automaticaly mean B is broken, crippled etc.
Udev is released around every 2 weeks and when there is no some serious or security bug and it works with the rest of Slackware, there is no reason to update - at least at stability oriented distros like Slack.
Pat releases a udev that works with Slackware -- the version with which he releases it. He dropped Gnome from Slackware over a year ago (Sat Mar 26 23:04:41 PST 2005), so it doesn't matter whether or not his version of udev works with Gnome.
No need to be critical of Pat's decisions -- he never called you up and said, "Please use Slackware."
Just out of curiousity - if the next Slackware will come with 2.6 kernel default, does that mean we can hope for glibc-2.4 and gcc-4.1.1 as well, as I believe 2.4 incompatibilities were the main reason for sticking with the previous versions in 10.2 and -current, or are there still stability concerns with these?
Just out of curiousity - if the next Slackware will come with 2.6 kernel default, does that mean we can hope for glibc-2.4 and gcc-4.1.1 as well, as I believe 2.4 incompatibilities were the main reason for sticking with the previous versions in 10.2 and -current, or are there still stability concerns with these?
well, he did write this in the -current chanelog on Mon Mar 13 18:53:57 CST 2006:
Code:
a/glibc-solibs-2.3.6-i486-3.tgz: Recompiled against 2.4.32 and 2.6.15.6
kernel headers. Yes, I have seen that shiny-looking glibc-2.4 release on
ftp.gnu.org, but glibc-2.4 completely drops support for linuxthreads, and
therefore will not support vanilla Linux 2.4.x kernels. I don't think
we're quite ready for that yet around here.
keep in mind that all this talk about slackware 11.0 using kernel 2.6 by default is just speculation (although of course it could end-up being true)...
He might have said 2.6 will be default, but it's quite obvious(from his udev versions, his glibc version, etc.) that he is going to ship 2.4 by default in 11/10.3.
Unless he makes some radical updates in current soon that is.
Mod Note: Because I am a great bloke and all round good guy, I have merged the 2 "when will the next release of Slackware be available?" threads into the all new "The Ultimate "When Will The Next Slackware Release Arrive" MegaThread". I have also stickied it.
This helps keep the discussions in one place and if a new thread starts you can point them at this one and say "get to the back of the queue".
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