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Back to the topic (I will tentatively assume there is one, just to authorize myself to feed this thread again, also considering that there is no law forbidding that I waste my time this way), a proposed way out is the Devuan project. See also the announcement.
With the "Devuan" name alone, the project stays true to the Debian spirit to keep things as unsexy as possible. Looking at their page, I have a hard time imagining a bunch of Unix veterans behind it. More like a gang of script kiddies trying to emulate a russian porn blog.
I just got reinterested in porting in Runit, but even if I would be successful, I aim to recycle and reuse as much of the BSD init as possible without transitioning fully to run files except to replace inittab stuff only.
Other than that, it's fairly much going to be aimed at attempting to be as invisible and unintrusive as possible. I already have Stage 1 and 2 scripts written. Just need to finish Stage 3, import the Runit-for-LFS system utilities, and give it a test whirl.
I could have used the run scripts and transition as much as possible, but after reading rc.M, all I could do was some minor edits, and keep rc.M as intact as possible. Just can't do much with that beautiful artwork of a script made with Patrick's TLC
With the "Devuan" name alone, the project stays true to the Debian spirit to keep things as unsexy as possible. Looking at their page, I have a hard time imagining a bunch of Unix veterans behind it. More like a gang of script kiddies trying to emulate a russian porn blog.
Well, if nothing works they are ready to provide porn as a last resort.
EDIT: And they are highly different than what you thought, Kiki
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First of all, who are the "Veteran Unix Admins", or VUAs. VUAs are a group of individuals associated with a private forum, created around 3 years ago by a group of "old" sysadmins. These were all friends, mostly from the Milan area.
EDIT2: This article the guy linked probably triggered the biggest flamewar in history because of this quote:
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While we know that emacs is near and dear to the hearts of many Unix admins, it really is the Unix equivalent of Microsoft Word.
Last edited by moisespedro; 11-30-2014 at 06:31 PM.
Ian Jackson resigned last week from Debian Tech Committee over the vote call, or the lack of willingness to vote on the aspect of keeping Debian packages init neutral from what I understood out of it.
Tested the Staging scripts in a VM earlier and Stage 1 works nicely. Need to set the loopback, but otherwise it boots up using a Slackwarefied Stage 1 script from Runit-For-LFS and Stage 2 fired up as expected with all services lauching. I removed the sysvinit tools and replaced them with our Runit system tool clones. Moved the maintenance startups for cache updates into a special run file along with the getties. Testing stage 3 thoroughly at the moment. Ctrlaltdel script works.
Back to the topic (I will tentatively assume there is one, just to authorize myself to feed this thread again, also considering that there is no law forbidding that I waste my time this way), a proposed way out is the Devuan project. See also the announcement.
Maybe we won't reach 1000 posts just with the discussion that this post will trigger but hey, I will have done my best
You've broken even. You've inspired a post (this one), so this adds to the count. However, my eyes are still bleeding from reading that first Web page, so it will take some time to return to LQ and add another reply in this thread. Now squinting enough so the "Submit Reply" button comes back into focus, and...
Devuan might seem half-cocked of an idea, but it's the same idea almost as Funtoo. Maybe they know something we don't so how can we say it seems unprofessional? Just because they lack a flashy website is no reason to approach with prejudice. After all, is Slackware's website all flashy and robust?
EDIT: And they are highly different than what you thought, Kiki
Debian is a biblical monster of a project, with more than a thousand developers across the world and a behemoth of an infrastructure. I don't think these guys stand the slightest chance to fork it. On the other hand, the simple fact that there's some form of protest is a good thing.
I have a hard time imagining a bunch of Unix veterans behind it. More like a gang of script kiddies trying to emulate a russian porn blog.
It was written with webnomad, which runs in a terminal, probably by someone with better things to do (like forking a linux distro) than making a web page look pretty.
Debian is a biblical monster of a project, with more than a thousand developers across the world and a behemoth of an infrastructure. I don't think these guys stand the slightest chance to fork it. On the other hand, the simple fact that there's some form of protest is a good thing.
百花齊放,百家爭鳴 ~毛泽东
Every flower got a right to be bloomin' ~Michael Franti
Last edited by qweasd; 12-01-2014 at 03:00 AM.
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