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Old 02-09-2010, 10:27 AM   #1
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Slackware, GNU and free software.


I've been using Slackware for several years, but haven't really encountered (or put much thought into) a definite answer on Slackware's amount of "freedom" as defined by the FSF and the Stallmanites. Does Slackware knowingly include much non-free software, or is it mostly all in the kernels that ship with it by default?
 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:02 AM   #2
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There is a small amount of software that would be considered "non-free" by the Free Software Foundation. An example is ksh93, i.e., the latest version of AT&T's Korn shell.
 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:06 AM   #3
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As far as I am aware, Slackware has no official stance on this subject. Slackware basically just goes with whatever works, and doesn't get too tangled up in the philosophical ideals that some other distributions wrestle with.

That said, Slack also has an extremely small set of packages when compared to most mainstream distributions, so by just the law of averages it is less like for Slack to wind up in those sorts of situations.
 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:15 AM   #4
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I think there's only about half-a-dozen distros on the FSF's "approved" list. So we're not alone.
 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:16 AM   #5
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Well, it's certainly not officially certified by the FSF as being as pure as RMS decrees, but then very very very few distros are, ones you've probably never heard of.

I can put it this way: It's legal.
 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:49 AM   #6
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Well, it's certainly not officially certified by the FSF as being as pure as RMS decrees, but then very very very few distros are, ones you've probably never heard of.
Debian?
 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:51 AM   #7
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No, Debian isn't on the list.

http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
 
Old 02-09-2010, 11:52 AM   #8
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http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html
 
Old 02-09-2010, 12:01 PM   #9
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I tried gNewSense in my distrohopping days. OK for idealists like RMS, but not for normal people like me (?).
 
Old 02-09-2010, 12:01 PM   #10
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Well, it's certainly not officially certified by the FSF as being as pure as RMS decrees
It likely never will be, as Slackware uses unmodified kernel source.
 
Old 02-09-2010, 12:19 PM   #11
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Debian?
you wish, heheheehe
 
Old 02-10-2010, 06:02 PM   #12
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Debian is definitely the closest of the major distributions to being included on the list, but from what I've read the GNU project's main gripe with it is that its guidelines are too vague (I find them pretty succinct) and its extremely minimal inclusion of proprietary code. That being said, I think Slackware would be easier to make a free spin-off of than most other distributions. The kernel source is its main problem but, using the libre kernel, and with a handpicked set of packages, there wouldn't be much standing in its way. But the effort.. :P
 
Old 02-10-2010, 06:21 PM   #13
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There is - or was - a free/libre Slackware spinoff. That would be Kongoni Linux (http://kongoni.co.za/).

However, last week the sole developer announced that he pulls the plug - according to his story, there has been no input from other people apart from himself in the year that the distro existed.

Eric
 
Old 02-10-2010, 07:42 PM   #14
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And sadly, it looks like his server got owned. http://kongoni.co.za/user-forums/help-me-please.html
 
Old 02-10-2010, 09:35 PM   #15
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And sadly, it looks like his server got owned. http://kongoni.co.za/user-forums/help-me-please.html
Don't think the server was owned just a spam bot posting threads in the forum.
 
  


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