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camphor 02-09-2010 10:27 AM

Slackware, GNU and free software.
 
I've been using Slackware for several years, but haven't really encountered (or put much thought into) a definite answer on Slackware's amount of "freedom" as defined by the FSF and the Stallmanites. Does Slackware knowingly include much non-free software, or is it mostly all in the kernels that ship with it by default?

sombragris 02-09-2010 11:02 AM

There is a small amount of software that would be considered "non-free" by the Free Software Foundation. An example is ksh93, i.e., the latest version of AT&T's Korn shell.

MS3FGX 02-09-2010 11:06 AM

As far as I am aware, Slackware has no official stance on this subject. Slackware basically just goes with whatever works, and doesn't get too tangled up in the philosophical ideals that some other distributions wrestle with.

That said, Slack also has an extremely small set of packages when compared to most mainstream distributions, so by just the law of averages it is less like for Slack to wind up in those sorts of situations.

brianL 02-09-2010 11:15 AM

I think there's only about half-a-dozen distros on the FSF's "approved" list. So we're not alone.

H_TeXMeX_H 02-09-2010 11:16 AM

Well, it's certainly not officially certified by the FSF as being as pure as RMS decrees, but then very very very few distros are, ones you've probably never heard of.

I can put it this way: It's legal.

dugan 02-09-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 3857973)
Well, it's certainly not officially certified by the FSF as being as pure as RMS decrees, but then very very very few distros are, ones you've probably never heard of.

Debian?

brianL 02-09-2010 11:51 AM

No, Debian isn't on the list.

http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html

carbonfiber 02-09-2010 11:52 AM

http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html

brianL 02-09-2010 12:01 PM

I tried gNewSense in my distrohopping days. OK for idealists like RMS, but not for normal people like me (?).

mudangel 02-09-2010 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 3857973)
Well, it's certainly not officially certified by the FSF as being as pure as RMS decrees

It likely never will be, as Slackware uses unmodified kernel source.

H_TeXMeX_H 02-09-2010 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dugan (Post 3858022)
Debian?

you wish, heheheehe

camphor 02-10-2010 06:02 PM

Debian is definitely the closest of the major distributions to being included on the list, but from what I've read the GNU project's main gripe with it is that its guidelines are too vague (I find them pretty succinct) and its extremely minimal inclusion of proprietary code. That being said, I think Slackware would be easier to make a free spin-off of than most other distributions. The kernel source is its main problem but, using the libre kernel, and with a handpicked set of packages, there wouldn't be much standing in its way. But the effort.. :P

Alien Bob 02-10-2010 06:21 PM

There is - or was - a free/libre Slackware spinoff. That would be Kongoni Linux (http://kongoni.co.za/).

However, last week the sole developer announced that he pulls the plug - according to his story, there has been no input from other people apart from himself in the year that the distro existed.

Eric

manwichmakesameal 02-10-2010 07:42 PM

And sadly, it looks like his server got owned. http://kongoni.co.za/user-forums/help-me-please.html

disturbed1 02-10-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by manwichmakesameal (Post 3859830)
And sadly, it looks like his server got owned. http://kongoni.co.za/user-forums/help-me-please.html

Don't think the server was owned just a spam bot posting threads in the forum.


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