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Old 02-07-2022, 06:17 AM   #46
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True, something like mentioning "Slackware lowers the entry barrier for learning how to customize packages; and the skills you learn apply to Linux in general." That is in addition to the fine points you made about breaking the chains that bind people to package repos. When you have at least a basic understanding of how to make your own packages, and a system that doesn't hinder you, than you choose repos out of choice, rather than necessity. I do feel like OTB did a fair job at hinting at that, but perhaps it could be threshed out more.
Could be another video :-) I've got one about setting up multilib with slackpkg+ and another about slackbuilds in general. I did go through the process of creating a slackbuild script in my video about creating a patched version of libXft, but that was fairly niche
 
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Old 02-07-2022, 06:22 AM   #47
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I liked the motorcycle background: made me think "Zen and the art of Slackware Maintenance"
Apart form Linux, my Royal Enfield is my other passion. It's in the background at the moment because I'm basically in a fancy shed at the bottom of my garden and the bike is resting until Summer arrives
 
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Old 02-07-2022, 09:55 AM   #48
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Do Royal Enfields still kick like 2 mules? I saw a guy back in the 70s literally unseated by a startup kick.
 
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Old 02-07-2022, 01:04 PM   #49
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Like Slackware users, motorcyclists should perform their own maintenance. I've gotta change out the throttle cable on my 79 sportster:

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It was painted by Lewis Burns, one of the few men on Earth I trust with my soul. Its more of a collectible than a daily driver, but I do ride it to Oregon Country Fair once a year, because they let me park it by the front gate. Also in Oregon, folks are not allowed to pump their own petrol/gasoline -- except for motorcyclists: the pump attendants are afraid to spill the solvent on the paint jobs, because motorcyclists have some kind of reputation... but if they knew me, I'm a pacifist through and through.

Motorcycle maintenance is akin to tinkering on Slackware: we often call our devices our "daily drivers." I am certainly more adept at tinkering with Linux than with motors--the spring in the needle valve in my chainsaw's carburetor flew accross the kitchen yesterday when I was cleaning it. I knew that could happen, which is why it was on cardboard on the kitchen table, a clean, well-lit space where I could locate fly away parts like that. If it had been Slackware, I could have increased the font size. Sure had me frustrated... practically need dental tools to work on it.

Even though it was all so I could go harvest more firewood to keep her warm, I caught hell from the young goddess anyway, about stinking up the kitchen

Thanks for the awesome review of Slackware-15. I didn't know about the new geninitrd script, because I landed through slackpkg. What, no emacs? You're missing out my friend Thanks for the grub tutorial -- I've been on elilo, so really appreciate your instructions.

Cheers.

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Old 02-08-2022, 03:12 AM   #50
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Like Slackware users, motorcyclists should perform their own maintenance. I've gotta change out the throttle cable on my 79 sportster
I knew OTB was my kinda guy when I saw he kept his motor in his living space My wife at the time nearly had apoplexy when I installed a desmodromic head on my old Ducati Street-Scrambler in our Living Room. That was just the beginning. She nearly had a coronary riding on the back when it blasted at over 11K RPM in every gear but 5th. Good thing it was sprocketed for scrambles or stock gearing would have hit over 130mph in 5th. In 4th at lower gearing 95 was quite enough for her.

Sweet looking Sportster, BTW, slack-in-the-box.
 
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Old 02-08-2022, 05:04 AM   #51
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Do Royal Enfields still kick like 2 mules? I saw a guy back in the 70s literally unseated by a startup kick.
Ha ha, these days they've removed the kickstarter - a real shame - so its electric start
 
Old 02-08-2022, 05:04 AM   #52
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Like Slackware users, motorcyclists should perform their own maintenance. I've gotta change out the throttle cable on my 79 sportster:

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It was painted by Lewis Burns, one of the few men on Earth I trust with my soul. Its more of a collectible than a daily driver, but I do ride it to Oregon Country Fair once a year, because they let me park it by the front gate. Also in Oregon, folks are not allowed to pump their own petrol/gasoline -- except for motorcyclists: the pump attendants are afraid to spill the solvent on the paint jobs, because motorcyclists have some kind of reputation... but if they knew me, I'm a pacifist through and through.

Motorcycle maintenance is akin to tinkering on Slackware: we often call our devices our "daily drivers." I am certainly more adept at tinkering with Linux than with motors--the spring in the needle valve in my chainsaw's carburetor flew accross the kitchen yesterday when I was cleaning it. I knew that could happen, which is why it was on cardboard on the kitchen table, a clean, well-lit space where I could locate fly away parts like that. If it had been Slackware, I could have increased the font size. Sure had me frustrated... practically need dental tools to work on it.

Even though it was all so I could go harvest more firewood to keep her warm, I caught hell from the young goddess anyway, about stinking up the kitchen

Thanks for the awesome review of Slackware-15. I didn't know about the new geninitrd script, because I landed through slackpkg. What, no emacs? You're missing out my friend Thanks for the grub tutorial -- I've been on elilo, so really appreciate your instructions.

Cheers.
Very nice
 
Old 02-08-2022, 05:10 PM   #53
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Forgot to mention whoever left the comment on OTB's YouTube video: "when the release cycle started his name was YTB"....I almost wasted a perfect brew of Earl Grey.
 
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Old 02-12-2022, 03:00 PM   #54
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Just tried it tonight and love it
I never miss any of your videos on YouTube. I especially like your Slackware videos. I remember Slackware from 1999 when I first got into Linux.
 
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Old 02-12-2022, 03:09 PM   #55
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I'm actually curious as to why OTB seems to prefer Arch. Is it that OTB only just installed in a VM to show the install as an exercise or does it actually get use? It does seem we prefer mostly what we grow accustomed to and I actually think this is Slackware's strongest suit. Things don't change unless they absolutely have to which means one can amass useful experience instead of constantly re-learning how to do basics. Besides Arch being a rolling release, which I do recognize some devs require for their employer, that it so quickly adopted the change to systemd, which whatever else, constituted a fairly massive new learning curve with little gain (none for most SOHO Desktop users) leads me to conclude Arch is not about keeping fundamentals but is all about rapid change. Am I mistaken?
 
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Old 02-12-2022, 03:27 PM   #56
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I'm actually curious as to why OTB seems to prefer Arch. Is it that OTB only just installed in a VM to show the install as an exercise or does it actually get use?
If memory serves I believe that OTB mentioned that he does install Slackware on hardware.
 
  


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