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Old 12-20-2020, 03:49 AM   #16
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Thanks garpu, good to know but bassmadrigal is on the ball. I installed slackpkg+ to try to get a damned update for multilib and probably should stop for the day or the spot where I've been beating my head against the wall will break through and the way my day is going the whole damned house will collapse.

Please ignore rant - Ya know, I really don't mind much when an update installs something new that fails in some way or just doesn't work but oh man! do I hate it when they break my old stuff. Grrrrr! I'm so upset I'm about to go back to 32 bit just so I don't have to deal with multilib complications. I'm sure I'm irrationally biased since I really don't recall anything like extra flaming hoops to jump through when 16bit came to 8bit, or when 32bit came to 16. Furthermore I really am not expecting to rocket up to a Mothership and hack an alien race whose conquered interstellar travels operating system a la Independence Day I just want to be able to run the stuff I commonly use without days of frustrating labor dealing with oild documentation.

BTW and relevant to my rant, I noticed that Princeton mirror hasn't been updated since 11/13, at least 2 updates old... still showing KDEv4. With this kind of lag on mirrors how is anyone supposed to know where to go to get up to date Multlibn Compat32 files?

Right now Steam won't launch and worse, my favorite music player, Aqualung, won't either AND it broke my 32 bit libraries to run the v3 KPackage that I use basically every day. Don't mind me, I'm gonna go eat worms
did you :

Code:
# slackpkg install multilib
and it's over and done?
 
Old 12-20-2020, 12:30 PM   #17
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Hello Scerovec. I hope you and your loved ones have an excellent holiday season and all stay happy and healthy as humanly possible

It is by no means over and done yet. I'm still learning slackpkg+ and I am a slow learner because for some reason my crazy brain hates "painting by numbers" and need to grasp fundamentals... the hows and whys, etc. So I'm likely to be at this for awhile. Short answer: I'm still having problems getting proper slackpg updates and it says it is confused by "slackpkg update multilib" which according to docs, if I've followed all the steps, shouldn't be a problem.


Right now I have what started as a test install of -Current but became a "snapshot" system that was so good it became my Main. That meant I needed another testing system so I made two. One of them is something of a throwaway in that I expect to break it regularly. The other is rather solid. The odd thing is neither of the three behave exactly the same. The more solid testing install initially installed multilib just fine but it doesn't want to update. My ersatz Main won't update multilib at all and a bunch of stuff is still broken now. I may try to satisfy Steam, Aqualung, and certainly my ancient KPackage3 ( I !LOVE! that app) manually and individually before I tackle the slackpkg+ multilib full update.

One problem I've been having is NetworkManager keeps rewriting /etc/resolv.conf. It writes in my router base address as "nameserver" which works OK for a web browser but keeps deleting my "nameserver 1.1.1.1" entry which is not only substantially faster but slackpkg+ balks at the router only resolv. Example: when resolv.conf has only the router base addy as nameserver, slackpkg says it can't even resolve "slackware.com" !!! Adding in 1.1.1.1 once again solves that but still results in (sorry it's so long)

Code:
2020-12-20 13:22:04 URL:https://slackware.nl/people/alien/multilib/current/GPG-KEY [11137/11137] -> "/tmp/slackpkg.ZEp7Wu/gpgkey-tmp-multilib" [1]
pub  1024D/A75CBDA0 2003-01-17 Eric Hameleers (IBM Linux) <alien@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
uid                            Eric Hameleers (Thuis) <e.hameleers@chello.nl>
uid                            Eric Hameleers (IBM Linux) <alien@nl.ibm.com>
uid                            Eric Hameleers <eric.hameleers@int.greenpeace.org>
uid                            Eric Hameleers <alien@sox.homeip.net>
uid                            Eric Hameleers <alien@slackware.com>
uid                            [jpeg image of size 3054]
uid                            Eric Hameleers (SBo) <alien@slackbuilds.org>
sub  1792g/7CBDC819 2003-01-17
gpg: key A75CBDA0: public key "Eric Hameleers <alien@slackware.com>" imported
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:               imported: 1
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found


wget: unable to resolve host address 'slackware.nl'

                   !!! W A R N I N G !!!
    Repository 'restricted' does NOT contain the GPG-KEY
    You SHOULD disable GPG check by setting 'CHECKGPG=off'
    in /etc/slackpkg/slackpkg.conf or use slackpkg with
    '-checkgpg=off' : 'slackpkg -checkgpg=off install packge'



2020-12-20 13:22:15 URL:https://slackware.nl/people/alien/sbrepos/current/x86_64/GPG-KEY [17372/17372] -> "/tmp/slackpkg.ZEp7Wu/gpgkey-tmp-alienbob" [1]
pub  1024D/A75CBDA0 2003-01-17 Eric Hameleers <alien@slackware.com>
uid                            Eric Hameleers (IBM Linux) <alien@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
uid                            Eric Hameleers (Thuis) <e.hameleers@chello.nl>
uid                            Eric Hameleers (IBM Linux) <alien@nl.ibm.com>
uid                            Eric Hameleers <eric.hameleers@int.greenpeace.org>
uid                            Eric Hameleers <alien@sox.homeip.net>
uid                            [jpeg image of size 3054]
uid                            Eric Hameleers (SBo) <alien@slackbuilds.org>
uid                            Eric Hameleers <eric.hameleers@alienbase.nl>
sub  1792g/7CBDC819 2003-01-17
gpg: key A75CBDA0: "Eric Hameleers <alien@slackware.com>" 1 new user ID
gpg: key A75CBDA0: "Eric Hameleers <alien@slackware.com>" 25 new signatures
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:           new user IDs: 1
gpg:         new signatures: 25
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found


wget: unable to resolve host address 'bear.alienbase.nl'

                   !!! W A R N I N G !!!
    Repository 'ktown' does NOT contain the GPG-KEY
    You SHOULD disable GPG check by setting 'CHECKGPG=off'
    in /etc/slackpkg/slackpkg.conf or use slackpkg with
    '-checkgpg=off' : 'slackpkg -checkgpg=off install packge'


                        Slackware Linux Project's GPG key added


==============================================================================
  WARNING! One or more errors occurred while slackpkg was running
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fatal: Slackware repository does not contains the official gpg-key!!
pub  1024D/A75CBDA0 2003-01-17 Eric Hameleers (IBM Linux) <alien@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
uid                            Eric Hameleers (Thuis) <e.hameleers@chello.nl>
uid                            Eric Hameleers (IBM Linux) <alien@nl.ibm.com>
uid                            Eric Hameleers <eric.hameleers@int.greenpeace.org>
uid                            Eric Hameleers <alien@sox.homeip.net>
uid                            Eric Hameleers <alien@slackware.com>
uid                            [jpeg image of size 3054]
uid                            Eric Hameleers (SBo) <alien@slackbuilds.org>
sub  1792g/7CBDC819 2003-01-17

root@homebase20:/home/enorbet# slackpkg update 

FATAL! No Slackware GPG-KEY imported.
If you are upgrading from an older release of slackpkg+, all keys must to be reimported.
Please run
  # slackpkg update gpg
But when I do what it says and run "slackpkg update gpg" I get

Code:
 2020-12-20 13:23:07 URL:https://slackware.nl/alien-kde/current/latest/x86_64/GPG-KEY [37117/37117] -> "/tmp/slackpkg.VkAn3Z/gpgkey-tmp-ktown" [1]
pub  4096R/769EE011 2016-08-21 Eric Hameleers (Alien BOB) <alien@slackware.com>
uid                            Eric Hameleers <eric.hameleers@gmail.com>
uid                            Eric Hameleers (SBo) <alien@slackbuilds.org>
uid                            Eric Hameleers (Thuis) <e.hameleers@chello.nl>
uid                            [jpeg image of size 4594]
uid                            Eric Hameleers (Alien Base) <eric.hameleers@alienbase.nl>
sub  4096R/FBD4AA32 2016-08-21
gpg: key 769EE011: public key "Eric Hameleers (Alien BOB) <alien@slackware.com>" imported
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:               imported: 1  (RSA: 1)
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found

                        Slackware Linux Project's GPG key added


==============================================================================
  WARNING! One or more errors occurred while slackpkg was running
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fatal: Slackware repository does not contains the official gpg-key!!
pub  1024D/A75CBDA0 2003-01-17 Eric Hameleers (IBM Linux) <alien@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
uid                            Eric Hameleers (Thuis) <e.hameleers@chello.nl>
uid                            Eric Hameleers (IBM Linux) <alien@nl.ibm.com>
uid                            Eric Hameleers <eric.hameleers@int.greenpeace.org>
uid                            Eric Hameleers <alien@sox.homeip.net>
uid                            Eric Hameleers <alien@slackware.com>
uid                            [jpeg image of size 3054]
uid                            Eric Hameleers (SBo) <alien@slackbuilds.org>
sub  1792g/7CBDC819 2003-01-17
and it still won't update anything let alone multilib.

I am considering holding off on this for a few days because I know I am impaired. I'm sufferring a nasty sinus infection and trying to achieve a reasonable balance between a head like a cabbage and nasty nasty antihistamine. I know I am "zombiefied" and not running anywhere near "on all cylinders". All I need do is read my whiny rant post above to know I'm not operating with a sharp tool.

I'll get it but maybe not likely today unless I stumble over it
 
Old 12-20-2020, 12:36 PM   #18
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Thank you gegechris99. Thats probably very good advice to start over clean and I will follow up and try that at the very least on a testing install... after I recover from a bad balance between a sinus infection and antihistamine, a "devil and the deep blue sea" or "rock and a hard place" condition to be sure. Today I may just throw down a shot of Irish Whiskey and go back to bed LOL (it doesn't take much as little and rarely as I indulge). Thanks again.
 
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I don't use network manager, but you should be able to specify additional nameservers in the conf files. It is likely in the configuration options of the GUI client.

As for your slackpkg issues. Can you share the server you're using for /etc/slackpkg/mirrors and then your /etc/slackpkg/slackpkg.conf and the slackpkg+ conf file (maybe /etc/slackpkg/slackpkgplus.conf, but I don't remember for sure)?
 
Old 12-20-2020, 04:35 PM   #20
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enorbet, I hope you'll recover soon.

To avoid NetworkManager constantly updating /etc/resolv.conf, add the following to /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf:
Code:
[main]
dns=none
If the conf file already has a [main] section, only add "dns=none" in it.

Source: man NetworkManager.conf
Quote:
dns
...
none: NetworkManager will not modify resolv.conf. This implies rc-manager unmanaged
 
Old 12-20-2020, 06:10 PM   #21
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enorbet, I hope you'll recover soon.

To avoid NetworkManager constantly updating /etc/resolv.conf, add the following to /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf:
Code:
[main]
dns=none
If the conf file already has a [main] section, only add "dns=none" in it.

Source: man NetworkManager.conf
Thank you gegechris99 not only for the kind words but also for pointing me to the NM conf file and the entry required to stop it's "updating" resolv.conf. I was rather puzzled that changing permissions to essentially "read-only" didn't stop it. Apparently some things trump root (Bridge and other card game reference, not political)
 
Old 12-20-2020, 06:28 PM   #22
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As for your slackpkg issues. Can you share the server you're using for /etc/slackpkg/mirrors and then your /etc/slackpkg/slackpkg.conf and the slackpkg+ conf file (maybe /etc/slackpkg/slackpkgplus.conf, but I don't remember for sure)?
Of course. For /etc/slackpkg/mirrors I began using "http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/slackware/slackware64-current" on the recommendation of truepatriot76, but after some success (not multilib tho) I tried using "http://www.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/current/" simply because I could get there with a browser and see that it is new, updated files.

My slackpkg.conf file is as follows (please forgive the length as I won't pare it down further till I'm sure of what's non-essential) even though I made a backup file of it.

Code:
 
# slackpkg.conf - Configuration for SlackPkg
# v2.8
#
# Project Page: http://slackpkg.org/
# Roberto F. Batista (aka PiterPunk) piterpunk@slackware.com
# Evaldo Gardenali (aka UdontKnow) evaldogardenali@fasternet.com.br
#
# For configuration options that have only two states, possible values are
# either "on" or "off"
#ARCH=
#PKGMAIN=slackware
#CHECKGPG to "on". 
#SLACKKEY="Slackware Linux Project <security@slackware.com>"
TEMP=/var/cache/packages
WORKDIR=/var/lib/slackpkg
WGETFLAGS="--passive-ftp"
DELALL=on
CHECKMD5=on
CHECKGPG=on
CHECKSIZE=off
PRIORITY=( patches %PKGMAIN extra pasture testing )
POSTINST=on
ONLY_NEW_DOTNEW=off
ONOFF=on
DOWNLOAD_ALL=on
DIALOG=on
BATCH=off
DEFAULT_ANSWER=n
USE_INCLUDES=on
SPINNING=on
DIALOG_MAXARGS=139000
#
By contrast here is the current slackpkgplus.conf I'm using which is directly copied from one of AlienBob's multilib pages
Code:
 SLACKPKGPLUS=on
VERBOSE=1
ALLOW32BIT=off
USEBL=1
WGETOPTS="--timeout=5 --tries=1"
GREYLIST=on
PKGS_PRIORITY=( multilib restricted alienbob ktown )
REPOPLUS=( slackpkgplus multilib restricted alienbob ktown )
MIRRORPLUS['multilib']=http://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/multilib/current/
MIRRORPLUS['alienbob']=http://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/sbrepos/current/x86_64/
MIRRORPLUS['restricted']=http://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/restricted_sbrepos/current/x86_64/
MIRRORPLUS['ktown']=http://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/alien-kde/current/latest/x86_64/
MIRRORPLUS['slackpkgplus']=http://slakfinder.org/slackpkg+/
I hope this helps me of course, but also any others working at understanding the quirks of slackpkg and slackpkg+. Thank you so much for all of your excellent assistance over a very long time. You are a gentleman, a scholar, and possibly a fine judge of good whiskey
 
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Of course. For /etc/slackpkg/mirrors I began using "http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/slackware/slackware64-current" on the recommendation of truepatriot76, but after some success (not multilib tho) I tried using "http://www.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/current/" simply because I could get there with a browser and see that it is new, updated files.
This is likely your problem then as that directory only contains multilib/compat32 files and not the full -current tree. Under /etc/slackpkg/mirrors, the selected server needs to be a full mirror of -current.

If you happen to keep -current mirrored on your own computer (using Eric's mirror-slackware-current.sh script), you can simply point slackpkg to use that mirror.

Code:
file://location/to/slackware64-current/
If you need to use a remote mirror, I've always had good luck with xmission and utah.edu mirrors (even when I was living in VA). But you could try my mirror speedtest script I linked earlier and check how up-to-date the fastest mirrors are to see if they're worth using as your main mirror.

Everything else looks relatively normal, so I think once you get your mirror fixed, it should hopefully alleviate your issues.
 
Old 12-21-2020, 02:48 AM   #24
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To add to what bassmadrigal explained, I would summarize it this way:

Slackware repository used by slackpkg is defined in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors
Third party repositories used by slackpkg+ are defined in /etc/slackpkg/slackpkgplus.conf (see the MIRRORPLUS lines).
multilib is a third party repository, so it is defined in slackpkgplus.conf.

To go one step further, the content of /etc/slackpkg with both slackpkg and slackpkg+ installed is as follows:
Code:
$ ls /etc/slackpkg/
blacklist  greylist  mirrors  notifymsg.conf  slackpkg.conf  slackpkgplus.conf  templates
The files in bold red are added by slackpkg+.

Another note: bear.alienbase.nl now redirects to slackware.nl. The MIRRORPLUS lines in /etc/slackpg/slackpkgplus.conf could be changed to:
Code:
MIRRORPLUS['multilib']=http://slackware.nl/people/alien/multilib/current/
MIRRORPLUS['alienbob']=http://slackware.nl/people/alien/sbrepos/current/x86_64/
MIRRORPLUS['restricted']=http://slackware.nl/people/alien/restricted_sbrepos/current/x86_64/
MIRRORPLUS['ktown']=http://slackware.nl/alien-kde/current/latest/x86_64/
MIRRORPLUS['slackpkgplus']=http://slakfinder.org/slackpkg+/
 
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Update - Some Success, Some Difficulties -

I changed mirrors back to the kernel.org entry and removed the above "slackware.com" entry. Two follow up steps enjoyed some success. First, I discovered that it was the "dhcpcd wlan0" action that rewrites "/etc/resolv.conf". I think it somewhat odd that my router base address manages to run browsers just fine but has problems from CLI, but no matter, I just made sure to add the "nameserver 1.1.1.1" line every time through quite a bit of rebooting... everytime I saw gcc and glibc-solibs involved. This got multilib working but a very strange event occurred.

Way back in June I installed ktown on this would-be Main system and as soon as Pam and elogind were provided, I updated, removing ConsoleKit2. I have no idea how or why but after getting Multilib to finally update, I logged in to Plasma5, where Steam worked and so did my much loved KPackage v3, Halleluliah, right? Nope. When I launched KPackage which displays all installed packages along with their "resume'" complete with full path to all associated files, right at the top, naturally or unnaturally depending on one's POV, there was ConsoleKit. AND lower down, elogind! WTF?

So I logged out back to runlevel 3 and removed ConsoleKit, and logged back in... or tried to. It didn't. Based on the weird but successful slackpkg+ Multilib update I reinstalled kde and plasma for good measure. That failed to login as well.

I really didn't want to "clean-system" just yet as I haven't learned to trust slackpkg yet. One major reason for this is contradictory feedback. It will give a message like "Failure to resolve "slackware.com" or "bear.alienbob.nl" and immediately after that dire message proceed to apparently download stuff from that address.... and still with lots of "CHECKSUM.md5" failure warnings.

So I supposed the checksum issues had to do mostly with an unclean system so I "bit the bullet", ran "clean system" and did my best to uncheck the SBO entries I recalled needing for things I had added, like Conky. That solved all of the checksum errors and I got a fairly long list of "install new" files which I installed followed by "upgrade all". I repeated the "install new and upgrade all" steps a few times because Plasma5 still halted part way through initial launch.

However after that first instance slackpkg+ no longer found anything new yet Plasma is still broken. So for today I'm in Xfce trying to understand what slackpkg+ needs to fix Plasma. This may be really obvious to others but I'm 20+ years in to having all the files I want on hand to "upgradepkg, reinstall and/or --install-new" and can see what it is that I need. With slackpkg+ so far, I feel somewhat blinded. Admittedly I am still a "cabbage head" from sinus and antihistamine so I haven't decided yet to proceed, hopefully cautiously, or to wait a few days until I am back in the chips.

Sorry for this long exposition when I really just wanted to thank all of you who have helped me so far, but actually I kinda figured articulating the debacle might cause insight to gel. We shall see. Thanks, guys.

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Have you tried with a new user? I've had issues in the past where KDE4 failed to load and I eventually figured out it was something specific to my profile. If not, are there any errors using startx or in the Xorg's logfile?

As for clean-system removing the checksum issues, that seems unlikely. I don't understand how cleaning unused packages would affect the checksums received from servers. If I had to guess, I'd say the kernel.org mirror was broken before and has since been synced properly.
 
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Hello bassmadrigal. I know you are staying busy. I hope you are also staying healthy and reasonably happy

Created a new user with no changes to regular user account. I forgot to mention before that since the last round of instals and upgrades, it kinda looks like Plasma5 or at least SDDM does complete now. However I am greeted by a silent black screen with just a working mouse cursor. I think I may attempt reinstalling KDE Plasma since once in Xfce now with KDE support, running "dolphin" from a terminal results in

Code:
dolphin
dolphin: error while loading shared libraries: libKF5BalooWidgets.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Since that file is most likely in /kde as part of Baloo, and now that I write this, I've confirmed I am going to reinstall KDE Plasma and go through the process again. As long as I can start Xfce with "startx" I can see and navigate. Plasma5 can't get worse since it is unusable right now. Thankfully Ctrl-Alt-Backspace still works!

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Old 12-21-2020, 04:45 PM   #28
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dolphin
dolphin: error while loading shared libraries: libKF5BalooWidgets.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
You probably missed the fact that some packages changed names when Patrick adopted my ktown and made a vtown out of it. One change was that my 'baloo5' and 'baloo5-wodgets' became 'baloo' and 'baloo-widgets'. And because KDE4 also contained a 'baloo' and 'baloo-widgets' package, you won't find 'baloo' or 'baloo-widgets' as an "Added" package, they list as "Upgraded" in the ChangeLog.txt.
See https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/ktown-becomes-vtown/
 
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Thanks Eric, and once again everybody here especially bassmadrigal and gegechris99. The lights are finally on! I can see!... even through this "fog". It took me awhile to feel comfortable with slackpkg(+) and much of that was my initial ignorance. It was very confusing at first with error messages that didn't lead me to solid answers. It took you guys and dogged persistence. Now that slackpkg+ is humming like a well-oiled machine with no weird errors I can begin to see what I can do with it. Once I discovered conclusively that slackpkg understands subdirectories like a, l, kde, and xap, and of course multilib it is far more like having a hard install than I realized at first. It just basically does what I would do but in fewer steps.

I can see the finish line and I think I'm gonna make it.
 
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My file:/etc/resolv.conf on the laptop:

Code:
# Generated by dhcpcd from wlan0.dhcp
# /etc/resolv.conf.head can replace this line
nameserver 8.8.8.8
nameserver 1.1.1.1
# /etc/resolv.conf.tail can replace this line
according to this a /etc/resolv.conf.tail or /etc/resolv.conf.head could hold something like:

Code:
#
nameserver 1.1.1.1
i'd try and play with it (as i did back in the day) if I where You

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Get well soon, hopefully You get there in peace and a good mood.
 
  


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