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Old 06-27-2008, 08:27 AM   #1
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Love the new look on Slackware FTP (firefox-3.0 issue)


No more mosiac !!!!

Sorry. Pretty irrelevant post but it's about time, because as we all know, it's the aesthetics that matters. The name column is roomy as well.

Now all it needs is a bandwidth upgrade...

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Old 06-27-2008, 08:57 AM   #2
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Hey... I have a feeling firefox 3 is somehow doing this to me.. Anyone care to confirm? In the middle of trying to build epiphany svn/webkit/gperf to try another browser...
 
Old 06-27-2008, 09:17 AM   #3
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I usually try to wait at least until noon to start drinking.
 
Old 06-27-2008, 09:44 AM   #4
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I can dink whn evr I god dan want to.. hick...

Seriously. Check it out.

Slackware FTP under a source built Firefox 3.0:
http://jaguarlinux.com/pub/sandbox/slackware-ftp.png

GNU ftp mirror (gperf directory):
http://jaguarlinux.com/pub/sandbox/gperf-ftp.png

It's even using my current Gnome Mist icons for the theme...

Anyone running a prebuilt mozilla binary of 3.0 wish to confirm?

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Old 06-27-2008, 09:47 AM   #5
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That's freakin sweet.

However, the n/ directory is unpopulated and a couple directories here and there don't have icons. Can anyone else confirm on that? Is the unpopulated n/ directory actually a Slackware FTP issue or is it just me?
 
Old 06-27-2008, 10:11 AM   #6
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Hi,

I too have seen similar visual effects with my Firefox 3 self-built package. It is definitely to do with Firefox 3 because if I go back to my old Firefox 2 installation it is as previous. The file icons all display a kind of yellow colour and in the Slackware packages directories the icons do not show at all - just the file names. Very strange. We need to know how Firefox 3 is doing this so that we can have control over the configuration.

Bill.
 
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n/ directory contains all the usual suspects for me, but it is way past noon here, so bottoms up!
 
Old 06-27-2008, 10:25 AM   #8
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Thanks for the reply Bill. Saw your thread at mozilla. Don't think you'll get a reply, tho you never know. But to answer your question, yes, it looks as if Firefox is going Gnome.... Unless it displays this type of behavior with KDE themes as well....

I don't know about any Gnome bits being required at build time, but it looks as if it's going Gnome Centric anyway.... That's just fine with me. Gnome is my favorite DE...

Not too happy about the missing icons but I'll see what I can't dig up concerning that.

Can someone visit the n/ directory on Slackware-current and tell me if it is empty for them please? Someone running Opera or firefox-2.x... Still building webkit for epiphany but that'll complete sometime and I'll find out then I guess.

edit - oh. Thanks for the n/ report. Still empty here under FF-3.0. Wow, Just made a huge sigh.... I don't know what to make of FF-3.0 yet... I like it alot but the damn thing is displaying some quirks. Empty directories is a show stopper IMO, unlike an unpopulated applications--> preferences menu...

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Old 06-27-2008, 10:48 AM   #9
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Just did a refresh on the n/ directory and everything is there now. Dunno. Go back and it's empty again. Have to keep hitting the refresh button.

The icons do change with your theme. Just changed to Darklooks and restarted firefox and now the ftp icons are different.

Bill, I'll poke around over the next few days and report back if I find out anything with this theme behavior.

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Old 06-27-2008, 11:03 AM   #10
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The file icons all display a kind of yellow colour and in the Slackware packages directories the icons do not show at all - just the file names.
I'll assume your running KDE? Kinda what I gathered from your post at mozilla. That is probably because you didn't build it against Gnome. Guessing anyways...

For everyone getting upset at firefox for these issues, I suppose there is every right to, but you need to remember that your running one of the only Linux distro's that doesn't ship Gnome (or build firefox for that matter).... Who's fault is it really? Ultimately I suppose it's firefox but one could argue the other way around as well.

Historically, Gnome and KDE have conflicted with Desktop Specification usage. Also, if I remember correctly, Slackware doesn't populate KDE icon directories with gtk-update-icon-cache..... That might be a logical place to start but I don't know how firefox is handling this new behavior...

Let's try to remember here that Firefox is a GTK2 based web browser, not QT... This is progress folks, like it or not. You can't be biased towards one toolkit in Linux when there are others actively used. I'm quite the hipocrate for saying that because I run a QT/KDE-less system...

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Old 06-27-2008, 02:14 PM   #11
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Let's try to remember here that Firefox is a GTK2 based web browser, not QT... This is progress folks, like it or not. You can't be biased towards one toolkit in Linux when there are others actively used. I'm quite the hipocrate for saying that because I run a QT/KDE-less system...
But Firefox 3 isn't strictly GTK2. It would be nice if it was. I have no problem with running strictly GTK2 or QT apps.

On the other hand, the trend seems to be for newer GTK2 apps to start pulling in other parts of Gnome or think because it is GTK2, you have to run gnome. I can tell as I usually get a .gnome populated some way or another these days. Constrast this with QT apps that don't require KDE. I don't get a .kde every time I run them. QT and KDE are fully separated in a sense. Whereas GTK2 is getting muddied with Gnome more and more.

BTW, I only use TWM, so I can tell which apps behave nicely without full DE's. QT ones work far better than the Gnomish ones.
 
Old 06-28-2008, 09:31 AM   #12
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https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402742

But that was supposed to have been resolved.... I tried to sit down and scroll thru about:config but didn't have the patience for it. Maybe there is a listing that will disable the new ftp look.
 
  


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