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Old 11-01-2009, 12:38 PM   #1
mattydee
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KDE4 vs Gnome


Haven't used Gnome in a while. With the whole KDE4 fiasco, I was thinking maybe of giving it another shot. I'm not a big fan of Gnome but with the way things are at this point, its become a a matter of the lesser of two evil choice...

Unfortunately, this might mean bye bye Slackware... I'll try out Gnome in Ubuntu for a while first.

Not sure if the "back to slack" force will be stronger than the "sick of fighting with KDE4" force.

 
Old 11-01-2009, 01:03 PM   #2
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Hi Mattydee

"To win in battle or make a successful siege without rewarding the meritorious is unlucky and earns the name of stinginess. Therefore it is said that an enlightened government considers this, an good military leadership rewards merit. They do not mobilize when there is no advantage, do not act when there is nothing to gain, do not fight when there is no danger."

... in "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu.


Some fights can be avoided... must you really "fight" KDE4...?
Use the "principle of the least action", by Pierre Louis de Maupertuis ( a French Physicist ) and simply avoid KDE4... :-)

( in Japan We call this Aikido )... :-)

There's much more of Slackware than there is of KDE... Why don't you give a try on FluxBox or XFCE...?

The "snappyness" of Slackware gets even snappier... without the bugs, memory footprint and bloatedness of KDE/GNOME...

Just test it... :-)

BRGDS

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Old 11-01-2009, 01:31 PM   #3
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I agree. I'm very new to slackware but I find xfce one of my favorite things about it.
Try it out. Mess with the appearance settings and you'll find it can be just as "pretty" as KDE and GNOME, more functional, and snappier; all three of these are important to me.
 
Old 11-01-2009, 01:51 PM   #4
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Hold your horses, mattydee. Why don't you use fluxbox or XFCE. KDE is not the only option. I use fluxbox most of the time.
 
Old 11-01-2009, 02:04 PM   #5
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Yeah. I agree with the above comments! Dropping Slackware because of KDE 4.x seems like overkill to me. Both XFce and Fluxbox are excellent alternatives to KDE 4.x. That to me would be much more preferable than moving to Ubuntu......shudder.
 
Old 11-01-2009, 02:11 PM   #6
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I've had good experiences with GSB...
 
Old 11-01-2009, 02:15 PM   #7
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Listen PPl,

I do not want to start a flame war here, but... does anybody around thinks that going to a distro ( been there myself, know that... ? :-( ) in which when you type apt-get install k3b in a root shell, it will install EVERYTHING in the repo which starts with a "K", like keject, kdeadmin, k(whatever) and clutter ALL your applications tab in your "glorious" Gnome dm with KDE stuff... ?

... don't think so... :-)

Alex
 
Old 11-01-2009, 02:31 PM   #8
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My 2 cents...

KDE works fine for me. No issues.

So my question is why switch to gnome (Which, on my last check, nobody has a good 13 install yet...)

And then there's always xfce, fluxbox, blackbox, and what ever other DE you wish.
 
Old 11-01-2009, 03:00 PM   #9
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My 2 cents...

KDE works fine for me. No issues. ...
Hi cwwilson721

Kde 3.5 was stable indeed... KDE4 is a ... call it "thing" that takes in excess of 400 Mb Ram... man... this is a few hundreds of tousands DOF in a F.E. analysis...

My Point here :

It is OK if one wants eye candy, it is OK if one wants memory availability and system responsiveness... but it is NOT OK if you want the best ot both worlds... the "...no free lunch" thing...

In my lab I run two workstations, one has CaeLinux with 16gb RAM and the other has FreeBSD 7.2 Stable... same hardware, the default DE of CaeLinux is Gnome, as well as the default DE of FreeBSD, I have installed WindowMaker from ports in the FBSD machine, man, the speed and size of te problems that can be solved are quite different...

As soon as I find out if I can build all my apps in Slackware, I will probably shift from CaeLinux to Slackware in one of the workstations...

IMHO, I think that the OP would benefit more from using Slackware+xfce (or fluxbox ) in his hardware, tha using Ubuntu, or Slackware + KDE4...

Just my opinion here


BRGDS

Ales

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Old 11-01-2009, 03:05 PM   #10
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So my question is why switch to gnome (Which, on my last check, nobody has a good 13 install yet...)
The -current branch of GSB has been 13.0-ready for a long time.

I haven't used it, but their previous versions were excellent.
 
Old 11-01-2009, 04:04 PM   #11
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Install Gnome from Slacky (gnome-desktop, gnome-panel, etc. with deps with slapt-get). Then compile the gnome-session from GWARE for the libs from slacky and use it. If you don't want to compile, install gnome-session from Slacky and then run the doinst.sh script of the GWARE one. That's needed, because some things must be added to gconf database in order to make gnome-session work properly (start panel, etc.).
 
Old 11-01-2009, 04:15 PM   #12
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Except of K3B I found no K-app which I'm missing without KDE.

With slackware you have the freedom of choice for a lot of DEs and/or WMs: fvmw2, fluxbox, LXDE, openbox, icewm, windowmaker, xfce or even strange things like ratpoison...whatever you like.
 
Old 11-01-2009, 04:24 PM   #13
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... xfce or even strange things like ratpoison...whatever you like.
Man... You call ratpoison a strange thing...? lol... what would you call wmii or amiwm... ? :-D
 
Old 11-01-2009, 05:25 PM   #14
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Except of K3B I found no K-app which I'm missing without KDE.

With slackware you have the freedom of choice for a lot of DEs and/or WMs: fvmw2, fluxbox, LXDE, openbox, icewm, windowmaker, xfce or even strange things like ratpoison...whatever you like.
k3b is now working well on -Current
 
Old 11-01-2009, 11:47 PM   #15
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I feel like Gnome and KDE are the only complete desktop environments. The others just aren't good enough for me. Nice to hear about GSB. I might give it a try later on, thanks.

PS: Ubuntu Karmic is running pretty well for me right now.
 
  


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