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View Poll Results: I want the next Slackware init system to be:
sysvinit's project repository has shown some activity, but it's been extremely minimal. The last updates were 6-7 months ago, so I doubt 2.89 will ever materialize and be released any time soon.
Even then no two distributions use the exact same set of programs from sysvinit.
I prefer it remain unchanged. If change must happen, then what ever our Slackware BDfL comes up with. It won't be the first time I've dealt with a major change that I did not exactly like. There is more to like about Slackware Linux than how it boots.
Other. For me right now that means "it ain't broke, so don't fix it". I run only laptops and workstations, no current server hardware.
Slackware is the #1 Least Annoying OS I can buy, nothing else is worth it.
I imagine if Pat and team can package a systemd OS with more Slack, I'd try it.
Let the systemd project mature first, see how it goes. /2c
P.S. "Cloud" technology bores me, not enthusiastic. :-\
Last edited by EYo; 09-24-2014 at 04:56 AM.
Reason: Added cloudy opinion.
Other. For me right now that means "it ain't broke, so don't fix it". I run only laptops and workstations, no current server hardware.
Slackware is the #1 Least Annoying OS I can buy, nothing else is worth it.
I imagine if Pat and team can package a systemd OS with more Slack, I'd try it.
Let the systemd project mature first, see how it goes. /2c
The question of maturity is when. They keep adding more and more crap, so how is anything supposed to stabilize?
The main problem is now, most of these solutions aren't init solutions just service supervision toolkits.
Assuming that Slackware will have to switch to a newer init system in the future
My problem with this poll is that it assumes that (irrespective of systemd) Slackware might have chosen to change init. I think that is highly unlikely.
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Originally Posted by metaschima
[...] we're assuming it is going to change [...] We are assuming it is inevitable, which is probably true.
What you have apparently not considered is why Slackware would need change. The only reason the init might need to change is because certain other components bundled with systemd (e.g. udev, logind) are increasingly needed by other parts of the OS. A switch would be to gain the bundled components (since they are increasingly difficult to separate from the rest of systemd). None of the non-systemd suggestions listed above bundle equivalents, so none of them solve this problem and hence none of them would be selected to replace the current init.
Only two options are valid, remain with the current init and find solutions for the bundled components (I favour this and hence selected other) or Slackware could switch to systemd. I am not aware of any reason to believe that Pat wants a new init. It is just that his hand might be forced towards systemd if no long term solution is found for udev, logind, etc.
Last edited by ruario; 09-24-2014 at 07:39 AM.
Reason: clarifications of my argument, plus another quote
sysvinit's project repository has shown some activity, but it's been extremely minimal. The last updates were 6-7 months ago, so I doubt 2.89 will ever materialize and be released any time soon.
It doesn't need activity because it is a mature piece of software where the major issues and bugs have already been ironed out.
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Originally Posted by ReaperX7
F*ck the status quo.
So you prefer change for the sake of change?
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Originally Posted by ReaperX7
The only thing we actually lack is service supervision to be perfectly honest, but that's a weak argument to make a full case over since Slackware has always been about learning to do things manually.
The question of maturity is when. They keep adding more and more crap, so how is anything supposed to stabilize?
The main problem is now, most of these solutions aren't init solutions just service supervision toolkits.
Heh, I was wondering who'd bite on that word. ;-)
It's my impression they are not finished re-writing the community to their image of Linux yet. When all the world is unit, we'll see what's left.
I really appreciate the people working on an alternative future, bazaar preferred. Thanks.
I voted other. I'm all for keeping things as they are for as long as possible, or even longer...eternity, even. It ain't broke, etc. Shoot the dog, it will become a martyr for the anti-systemd cause and will end up in Paradise with 72 virgin bitches.
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