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Old 11-22-2005, 12:54 AM   #1
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"gnome on slackware" suggestions


For a few moths I've been not using Gnome cause it was dropped out from slackware-current. Instead I've been using KDE and Fluxbox. I tried the Freerock GNOME but in the end it just messed up the KDE menu (and I even couldnt edit it) and didn't even work.

I would like to use GNOME again and am asking for your advices on choosing the way to install it. Freerock I'm not willing to try.
 
Old 11-22-2005, 01:28 AM   #2
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you could try dropline gnome, but you need 2.6.x kernel.

www.linuxpackages.net just endorsed freerock gnome so that is probably what will be focused on
 
Old 11-22-2005, 03:17 AM   #3
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From the Freerock FAQ:

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"My KDE Menus are all messed up after installing FRG/GSB! How do I fix them?"

The KDE menus might be changed if you install FRG because of the gnome-menus package, The gnome-menus package implements the freedesktop.org desktop menu specification. There is a simple fix for this. Just add the following near the top of the startkde script:

$ export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/opt/kde/etc/xdg

If the improper menus persist, run:

kbuildsycoca

from Konsole after you have logged into KDE. Thanks to Jim Philips and Locustfurnace for pointing it out.
I have used the above suggestions successfully in the past to solve the KDE menu problem.

I just installed the 2.12.1 Freerock Gnome, built for Slackware 10.2, and the KDE menus were fine so perhaps this issue has been resolved.

I know you said you did not want to use Freerock, but I thought I might point this out anyway.
 
Old 11-22-2005, 07:22 AM   #4
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Originally posted by Finlay
you could try dropline gnome, but you need 2.6.x kernel.

www.linuxpackages.net just endorsed freerock gnome so that is probably what will be focused on
FYI: None of the third-party GNOME desktops (FRG, Gware, Dropline) require a 2.6 kernel, but are suggested to make the most of all of the HAL features.

Also, as noted above by Franklin, the KDE menu problem is explicitly a KDE problem, and you will experience it on all of the the third-party GNOME desktops on Slackware.

I'm one of the Dropline GNOME developers, but I would like to suggest that you give Freerock GNOME more of a chance before removing it. It's a great desktop, and the developers work really hard on it. Some of the little hangups that you've experienced can be corrected pretty easily with the assistance of Linuxquestions.org members. If you find that FRG still is not what you want, then give Dropline or Gware a try. I'm sure that one of them will meet your needs.
 
Old 11-22-2005, 10:38 AM   #5
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Last time i tried to install dropline i had to add some sort of force option because i didn't have a 2.6 kernel. once i got everything installed it didn't work properly. but no worries, i noticed after my post his profile says he has 2.6.x

now i think i am going to go install dropline since i have 2.6.x i liked that environment and it seems like i had better sound quality, but maybe that was the beer
 
Old 11-22-2005, 10:52 AM   #6
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Last time i tried to install dropline i had to add some sort of force option because i didn't have a 2.6 kernel. once i got everything installed it didn't work properly. but no worries, i noticed after my post his profile says he has 2.6.x

now i think i am going to go install dropline since i have 2.6.x i liked that environment and it seems like i had better sound quality, but maybe that was the beer
It was the beer. No, not really.

A team of former Dropline users took over the project about a year ago. Soon after that, we made it a bit more friendly to 2.4 kernels. It should not require the force option anymore, as long as you have kernel 2.4.31 or greater... Simply because we've tested it on the Slackware default or higher.

Additionally, we made the HAL and DBUS scripts check the kernel version before initializing. That way, the only thing that you lose on 2.4 kernels is the HAL support.
 
Old 11-22-2005, 01:25 PM   #7
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I have use both freerock and dropline.

i have freerock on our server at work. I dont usually use it, but its nice to have sometimes. I chose freerock for this application because it does tend to keep (in my opinion) the system more vanilla than dropline.


I use dropline at home. Dropline has made a few changes to the system in order to give the user a better experience.While it may not be changes I want at work, the guys at DLG have really made a great product. Just remember that some slackware stuff has been "tweaked" to make Slack and Gnome play better together and make them more like gnome on other distros. I don't have a problem with this as I understand what they have changed and it doesn't effect anything on my system negatively.

Both are great


soule
 
Old 11-22-2005, 04:00 PM   #8
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This question is directed at zborgerd:

I don't wish to hijack this thread so I will ask quickly and if you have additional info let me know and I will post a new thread.

I have had problems with Gnome/Nautilus/famd and now gamin hammering my nfs server whenever I open a NFS share in Nautilus.

Have you seen this before? I have seen several hits with google, but no solutions.

 
Old 11-22-2005, 05:48 PM   #9
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This question is directed at zborgerd:

I don't wish to hijack this thread so I will ask quickly and if you have additional info let me know and I will post a new thread.

I have had problems with Gnome/Nautilus/famd and now gamin hammering my nfs server whenever I open a NFS share in Nautilus.

Have you seen this before? I have seen several hits with google, but no solutions.

I have not personally seen this, but you may want to try asking in the Dropline Forums at http://dropline-gnome.sourceforge.net/forums/ . Someone there may have experienced this, and could have a solution.
 
Old 11-22-2005, 05:55 PM   #10
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I have not personally seen this, but you may want to try asking in the Dropline Forums at http://dropline-gnome.sourceforge.net/forums/ . Someone there may have experienced this, and could have a solution.
By the way... Just tell the folks there that you're using FRG (if that is the case), but I told you that you should ask there anyway.

Alternately, you could try Dropline's FAM package and see if it corrects the problem, but I'm not sure it will do any good. We do include a dnotify patch in ours, but I'm not sure if that changes things.
 
Old 11-22-2005, 07:38 PM   #11
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Alternately, you could try Dropline's FAM package and see if it corrects the problem, but I'm not sure it will do any good. We do include a dnotify patch in ours, but I'm not sure if that changes things.
I've read that the dnotify patch might be helpful, but I have not found any threads with posted results.

Thanks for the input. I will try the dropline forums. I've posted here and in a.o.l.s. with not much help.
Disabling famd in Gnome-2.8.3 works fine and stops the hammering. Anything over 2.10.0 is less cooperative - perhaps due to gamin being used instead of famd?

The issue is the fact that, in the case of famd, if famd is not running on the server the client side famd drops back to polling, but I cant seem to adjust the polling interval as I've found it described. Famd does not respond to my conf edits.

I think I should mention that this is a Gnome issue, not a slackware issue as the same thing happens in SuSE, Ubuntu, and Debian as clients. Slack is far worse though and this may have something to do with the (lack of) the dnotify patch.

Who knows ...

Anyway, thanks again. One step closer ... maybe

I will now return you to your regularly scheduled thread
 
Old 11-22-2005, 07:45 PM   #12
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Here's the link, in case you are interested:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/d...l.tgz?download
 
Old 11-22-2005, 08:02 PM   #13
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Thanks again!

Just downloaded and will try another day - must sleep now

I'll let you know what happens.

Later

Steve
 
Old 11-22-2005, 09:44 PM   #14
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Originally posted by Franklin
Thanks again!

Just downloaded and will try another day - must sleep now

I'll let you know what happens.

Later

Steve
You may want to note the changes that are made by the doinst.sh. Additionally, it requires that /etc/rc.d/rc.portmap and rc.inetd are enabled. I am not very familiar with gamin though, so I do not know if there would be any conflicts of any sort...
 
Old 11-23-2005, 01:09 PM   #15
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I was thinking of trying GWARE. What is the difference between it and other gnome's? How do you like it? How is it installed? Any known problems? Pros? Cons?

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